Home Mail MemberMap Chat (0) Wallpapers
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > The Lounge > D.C.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-26-2013, 01:28 PM  
Taco John Taco John is offline
12on Paul
 
Taco John's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Casino cash: $10100470
Boehner says he will not pass a clean bill from Reid

House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) insisted Thursday that the government would not shut down, but he also flatly refused to pass a "clean" spending bill to keep Uncle Sam in business next week when the bank account runs dry.

"I do not see that happening," Boehner told reporters on Capitol Hill after meeting with Republican legislators.

The House passed a measure last week to fund the government after Sept. 30 only if Democrats agree to strip spending from Obamacare. The Senate is in the process of removing the health care defunding and plans to send a simple spending bill back to the House by this weekend. That bill would keep the government running until Nov. 15.

Boehner declared, "I don't expect" the government to close. But he did not explain how he and his Republican caucus could amend the Senate bill, debate it, vote on it and send it back to the Senate for more action there before Oct. 1.

"There will be options available to us," Boehner said. "There's not going to be any speculation about what we're going to do or not do until the Senate passes their bill."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3996800.html
Posts: 50,682
Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2013, 04:46 PM   #121
Taco John Taco John is offline
12on Paul
 
Taco John's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jun 2001
Casino cash: $10100470
Quote:
Originally Posted by jettio View Post
The problem with your analogy is that there are 365 days in the year.

Why has the GOP decided not to negotiate these issues outside of a crisis situation?
Ted Cruz told everyone he was going to do this in January, just like Rand Paul did with the debt ceiling the last time (and this next time). This isn't coming out of nowhere. These guys aren't being covert. They're giving the President ample warning that this is coming. Have either of them been invited for a talk? Nope. Instead the president says "we are absolutely not going to negotiate with you," and draws a red line in the sand. Well, guess what - our guys know what his red lines in the sand are worth, and are willing to walk over it in order to get our issues the attention they deserve.
__________________
Ehyeh asher ehyeh.
Posts: 50,682
Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2013, 04:49 PM   #122
Taco John Taco John is offline
12on Paul
 
Taco John's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jun 2001
Casino cash: $10100470
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raiderhader View Post
Ultimately, the help or hurt factor will be decided by the republicans themselves depending on how well they they run their PR campaign. If they run it like W ran his while he was in the White House, they may as well surrender now. But if they actually take some initiative, show some leadership, and go on the offensive not just against the left but, also against members of their own party like McCain and Graham, they can very well rally the support of the people behind them.

If they choose to continue the fight, they better not back out once they are in it and the shit really starts flying.

Cruz and Paul don't have the option to back out of the fight. They were put there by their voters to make sure the fight happens. If they were to back down, they'd lose their base.

There's no reason for them to back down. They're making money hand over fist for their re-election campaigns right now. They've both got full coffers.
__________________
Ehyeh asher ehyeh.
Posts: 50,682
Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2013, 04:51 PM   #123
Taco John Taco John is offline
12on Paul
 
Taco John's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jun 2001
Casino cash: $10100470
Cruz has zero reasons to back down:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...e-funding.html
__________________
Ehyeh asher ehyeh.
Posts: 50,682
Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2013, 04:56 PM   #124
Raiderhader Raiderhader is offline
SteelSkull
 
Raiderhader's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Strawberry Hill
Casino cash: $51639273
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taco John View Post
Cruz and Paul don't have the option to back out of the fight. They were put there by their voters to make sure the fight happens. If they were to back down, they'd lose their base.

There's no reason for them to back down. They're making money hand over fist for their re-election campaigns right now. They've both got full coffers.
Cruz and Paul are not my concern.
__________________
"Serious sport has nothing to do with fair play. It is bound up with hatred, jealousy, boastfulness, and disregard of all the rules."

-- George Orwell, Shooting an Elephant
Posts: 16,990
Raiderhader threw an interception on a screen pass.Raiderhader threw an interception on a screen pass.Raiderhader threw an interception on a screen pass.Raiderhader threw an interception on a screen pass.Raiderhader threw an interception on a screen pass.Raiderhader threw an interception on a screen pass.Raiderhader threw an interception on a screen pass.Raiderhader threw an interception on a screen pass.Raiderhader threw an interception on a screen pass.Raiderhader threw an interception on a screen pass.Raiderhader threw an interception on a screen pass.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2013, 04:59 PM   #125
Raiderhader Raiderhader is offline
SteelSkull
 
Raiderhader's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Strawberry Hill
Casino cash: $51639273
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taco John View Post
Cruz has zero reasons to back down:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...e-funding.html
Ryan and Rubio really dicked themselves over pretty good.
__________________
"Serious sport has nothing to do with fair play. It is bound up with hatred, jealousy, boastfulness, and disregard of all the rules."

-- George Orwell, Shooting an Elephant
Posts: 16,990
Raiderhader threw an interception on a screen pass.Raiderhader threw an interception on a screen pass.Raiderhader threw an interception on a screen pass.Raiderhader threw an interception on a screen pass.Raiderhader threw an interception on a screen pass.Raiderhader threw an interception on a screen pass.Raiderhader threw an interception on a screen pass.Raiderhader threw an interception on a screen pass.Raiderhader threw an interception on a screen pass.Raiderhader threw an interception on a screen pass.Raiderhader threw an interception on a screen pass.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2013, 05:00 PM   #126
jettio jettio is offline
MVP
 

Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Kansas City
Casino cash: $25103
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taco John View Post
Ted Cruz told everyone he was going to do this in January, just like Rand Paul did with the debt ceiling the last time (and this next time). This isn't coming out of nowhere. These guys aren't being covert. They're giving the President ample warning that this is coming. Have either of them been invited for a talk? Nope. Instead the president says "we are absolutely not going to negotiate with you," and draws a red line in the sand. Well, guess what - our guys know what his red lines in the sand are worth, and are willing to walk over it in order to get our issues the attention they deserve.
Sounds like you are really entertained by your hero. You seem to think you are right there.

What percentage of your income are you going to send to Ted Cruz so that he can protect you from the harsh reality that, for you, Obamacare means keeping the same health insurance that you already have?
__________________
Where Ignorance is Bliss, 'Tis Folly to be Wise.

__
Posts: 6,968
jettio must have mowed badgirl's lawn.jettio must have mowed badgirl's lawn.jettio must have mowed badgirl's lawn.jettio must have mowed badgirl's lawn.jettio must have mowed badgirl's lawn.jettio must have mowed badgirl's lawn.jettio must have mowed badgirl's lawn.jettio must have mowed badgirl's lawn.jettio must have mowed badgirl's lawn.jettio must have mowed badgirl's lawn.jettio must have mowed badgirl's lawn.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2013, 05:03 PM   #127
RNR RNR is offline
Ok which door do I leave from
 
RNR's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Close to the big pond~
Casino cash: $34863
Quote:
Originally Posted by jettio View Post
Sounds like you are really entertained by your hero. You seem to think you are right there.

What percentage of your income are you going to send to Ted Cruz so that he can protect you from the harsh reality that, for you, Obamacare means keeping the same health insurance that you already have?
Blindly towing the line. Everyone knows this is a train wreck which is the reason your hero is dealing waivers~
__________________

"If its true that our species is alone in the universe, then Id have to say that the universe aimed rather low and settled for very little"
George Carlin~
Posts: 23,891
RNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2013, 05:03 PM   #128
jettio jettio is offline
MVP
 

Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Kansas City
Casino cash: $25103
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taco John View Post
Cruz and Paul don't have the option to back out of the fight. They were put there by their voters to make sure the fight happens. If they were to back down, they'd lose their base.

There's no reason for them to back down. They're making money hand over fist for their re-election campaigns right now. They've both got full coffers.
Well as long as they have money to put commercials on the air where they say things they know are not true, I suppose everything is great.

I think some of our nation's citizens aspire to higher ideals for their country than whether or not cynical politicians have enough money to run cynical commercials.
__________________
Where Ignorance is Bliss, 'Tis Folly to be Wise.

__
Posts: 6,968
jettio must have mowed badgirl's lawn.jettio must have mowed badgirl's lawn.jettio must have mowed badgirl's lawn.jettio must have mowed badgirl's lawn.jettio must have mowed badgirl's lawn.jettio must have mowed badgirl's lawn.jettio must have mowed badgirl's lawn.jettio must have mowed badgirl's lawn.jettio must have mowed badgirl's lawn.jettio must have mowed badgirl's lawn.jettio must have mowed badgirl's lawn.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2013, 05:05 PM   #129
Raiderhader Raiderhader is offline
SteelSkull
 
Raiderhader's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Strawberry Hill
Casino cash: $51639273
Quote:
Originally Posted by RNR View Post
Blindly towing the line. Everyone knows this is a train wreck which is the reason your hero is dealing waivers~
Train wreck does not begin to describe what this law will do if not repealed.
__________________
"Serious sport has nothing to do with fair play. It is bound up with hatred, jealousy, boastfulness, and disregard of all the rules."

-- George Orwell, Shooting an Elephant
Posts: 16,990
Raiderhader threw an interception on a screen pass.Raiderhader threw an interception on a screen pass.Raiderhader threw an interception on a screen pass.Raiderhader threw an interception on a screen pass.Raiderhader threw an interception on a screen pass.Raiderhader threw an interception on a screen pass.Raiderhader threw an interception on a screen pass.Raiderhader threw an interception on a screen pass.Raiderhader threw an interception on a screen pass.Raiderhader threw an interception on a screen pass.Raiderhader threw an interception on a screen pass.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2013, 05:05 PM   #130
jettio jettio is offline
MVP
 

Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Kansas City
Casino cash: $25103
Quote:
Originally Posted by RNR View Post
Blindly towing the line. Everyone knows this is a train wreck which is the reason your hero is dealing waivers~
What waivers are you talking about? Can you explain? I would really hope that you could really write about this subject so that I can understand that you made an independent judgment that was not "blindly towing the line".
__________________
Where Ignorance is Bliss, 'Tis Folly to be Wise.

__
Posts: 6,968
jettio must have mowed badgirl's lawn.jettio must have mowed badgirl's lawn.jettio must have mowed badgirl's lawn.jettio must have mowed badgirl's lawn.jettio must have mowed badgirl's lawn.jettio must have mowed badgirl's lawn.jettio must have mowed badgirl's lawn.jettio must have mowed badgirl's lawn.jettio must have mowed badgirl's lawn.jettio must have mowed badgirl's lawn.jettio must have mowed badgirl's lawn.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2013, 05:06 PM   #131
jettio jettio is offline
MVP
 

Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Kansas City
Casino cash: $25103
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raiderhader View Post
Train wreck does not begin to describe what this law will do if not repealed.
Can you describe what this law will do if not repealed?
__________________
Where Ignorance is Bliss, 'Tis Folly to be Wise.

__
Posts: 6,968
jettio must have mowed badgirl's lawn.jettio must have mowed badgirl's lawn.jettio must have mowed badgirl's lawn.jettio must have mowed badgirl's lawn.jettio must have mowed badgirl's lawn.jettio must have mowed badgirl's lawn.jettio must have mowed badgirl's lawn.jettio must have mowed badgirl's lawn.jettio must have mowed badgirl's lawn.jettio must have mowed badgirl's lawn.jettio must have mowed badgirl's lawn.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2013, 05:07 PM   #132
RNR RNR is offline
Ok which door do I leave from
 
RNR's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Close to the big pond~
Casino cash: $34863
Quote:
Originally Posted by jettio View Post
What waivers are you talking about? Can you explain?
__________________

"If its true that our species is alone in the universe, then Id have to say that the universe aimed rather low and settled for very little"
George Carlin~
Posts: 23,891
RNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2013, 05:10 PM   #133
Raiderhader Raiderhader is offline
SteelSkull
 
Raiderhader's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Strawberry Hill
Casino cash: $51639273
Quote:
Originally Posted by jettio View Post
Can you describe what this law will do if not repealed?
Destroy the economy and the current health system. It will do so because that is exactly what it was designed to do. Once everything has been laid to waste the government then gets to step in and say we need to fix this. Welcome national health care, and who knows what else on the economic side of things.
__________________
"Serious sport has nothing to do with fair play. It is bound up with hatred, jealousy, boastfulness, and disregard of all the rules."

-- George Orwell, Shooting an Elephant
Posts: 16,990
Raiderhader threw an interception on a screen pass.Raiderhader threw an interception on a screen pass.Raiderhader threw an interception on a screen pass.Raiderhader threw an interception on a screen pass.Raiderhader threw an interception on a screen pass.Raiderhader threw an interception on a screen pass.Raiderhader threw an interception on a screen pass.Raiderhader threw an interception on a screen pass.Raiderhader threw an interception on a screen pass.Raiderhader threw an interception on a screen pass.Raiderhader threw an interception on a screen pass.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2013, 05:17 PM   #134
RNR RNR is offline
Ok which door do I leave from
 
RNR's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Close to the big pond~
Casino cash: $34863
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raiderhader View Post
Destroy the economy and the current health system. It will do so because that is exactly what it was designed to do. Once everything has been laid to waste the government then gets to step in and say we need to fix this. Welcome national health care, and who knows what else on the economic side of things.
Forgive the groupies they have not noticed the assholes from both parties made damn sure they were not going to be effected by this bullshit and the "law" only being partially enforced~
__________________

"If its true that our species is alone in the universe, then Id have to say that the universe aimed rather low and settled for very little"
George Carlin~
Posts: 23,891
RNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2013, 05:19 PM   #135
Taco John Taco John is offline
12on Paul
 
Taco John's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jun 2001
Casino cash: $10100470
Quote:
Originally Posted by jettio View Post
Well as long as they have money to put commercials on the air where they say things they know are not true, I suppose everything is great.

I think some of our nation's citizens aspire to higher ideals for their country than whether or not cynical politicians have enough money to run cynical commercials.
That hasn't been my observation.
__________________
Ehyeh asher ehyeh.
Posts: 50,682
Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:37 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.