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Old 09-27-2013, 12:57 AM  
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Flesh-Eating Drug Krokodil Finally Shows Up in the US

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Krokodil, already a popular drug in Russia, has finally made its way to the United States. The Banner Poison Control Center in Arizona has reported two cases of the flesh-rotting drug’s use, believed to be the first in the US.

The drug is a mixture of codeine and hydrocarbons like gasoline, paint thinner, or oil that is injected directly into veins. It’s named krokodil because once injected, it rots your skin from the inside out, causing an alligator skin-like appearance. It’s really, really gross. You probably want to avoid the YouTube videos.

Dr. Frank LoVecchio, the co-medical director at Banner's Poison Control Center, said, “we're extremely frightened." He elaborates on the flesh-eating drugs that often sell for ten to 20 times less than the cost of heroin:

"They cause damage to the blood vessels damage to the tissue and there are horrific pictures from Russia that show skin literally falling off the bone."

He also believes the two cases in Arizona are related, but wouldn’t say more except to add, "Where there is smoke there is fire, and we're afraid there are going to be more and more cases."
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Old 09-27-2013, 11:21 AM   #46
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When I was a kid, they showed us pictures of what meth can do, and I was like...why the **** would anyone want to do that? What high is worth THAT? But, people use it anyway. It's a sad statement on the state of mind of a person to feel that they have to use this shit anyway, regardless of the consequences. Just friggin' horrible.

I can't imagine what would lead to that.
I don't know if things have changed since the old "Just say no" days. But they never really educated us on what each drug is, what it does, and what side effects it may have had. It's just a general blanket statement and really what kid just does what they are told to do because well someone said so? So naturally being curious I experimented with stuff and learned things on my own. I don't know if I would NOT experimentated otherwise, but I think some more specific education MIGHT help rather than just saying don't do "drugs" when "drugs" can be and do so many different things.

Of course the internet in now available if you have those questions I suppose.
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Old 09-27-2013, 11:23 AM   #47
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I don't know if things have changed since the old "Just say no" days. But they never really educated us on what each drug is, what it does, and what side effects it may have had. It's just a general blanket statement and really what kid just does what they are told to do because well someone said so? So naturally being curious I experimented with stuff and learned things on my own. I don't know if I would NOT experimentated otherwise, but I think some more specific education MIGHT help rather than just saying don't do "drugs" when "drugs" can be and do so many different things.

Of course the internet in now available if you have those questions I suppose.
This.

I got the usual blanket statement of just say no....my entire way through school. The first time I smoked pot....I thought they had no clue what the **** they were talking about. That shit branched out into other drugs that I tried. Luckily I never got any of the "harmful side effects" that they talked about....but eventually I came to the realization that I wasn't going to go anywhere in life doing what I was doing.
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Old 09-27-2013, 11:24 AM   #48
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I don't know if things have changed since the old "Just say no" days. But they never really educated us on what each drug is, what it does, and what side effects it may have had. It's just a general blanket statement and really what kid just does what they are told to do because well someone said so? So naturally being curious I experimented with stuff and learned things on my own. I don't know if I would NOT experimentated otherwise, but I think some more specific education MIGHT help rather than just saying don't do "drugs" when "drugs" can be and do so many different things.

Of course the internet in now available if you have those questions I suppose.
Yeah, in some sense, pot was a gateway drug for me. I'd been told all these ridiculous falsehoods and exaggerations about marijuana as a child growing up in the "Just Say No" decade. When I started investigating on my own, I found out a lot of that stuff was bullshit. It then led to me doubting what I'd been told about other drugs as well (some of which was actually legitimate).

There's also the idea of being the exception. Sure, you see that happen with some people, but those are probably worse case scenarios.. no one ever thinks it's going to happen to them.
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Old 09-27-2013, 11:25 AM   #49
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Yeah, in some sense, pot was a gateway drug for me. I'd been told all these ridiculous falsehoods and exaggerations about marijuana as a child growing up in the "Just Say No" decade. When I started investigating on my own, I found out a lot of that stuff was bullshit. It then led to me doubting what I'd been told about other drugs as well (some of which was actually legitimate).

There's also the idea of being the exception. Sure, you see that happen with some people, but those are probably worse case scenarios.. no one ever thinks it's going to happen to them.
Pot was definitely a gateway drug for me. I ended up trying a TON of drugs from the ages of 14-21.
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Old 09-27-2013, 11:32 AM   #50
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I'm really not sure if you're just trolling or not.

I really hope you are.
I'm not and you aren't gonna change my mind about it either.
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Old 09-27-2013, 11:34 AM   #51
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No I'm saying I have a concern for all children, even those that don't have the advantages mine do.
I thought Broncos fans wished all the children of the world dead. That's what CP led me to believe anyway.
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Old 09-27-2013, 11:35 AM   #52
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I'm not and you aren't gonna change my mind about it either.
send me that documentary when you're done w/it, bro.
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Old 09-27-2013, 11:39 AM   #53
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I'm not and you aren't gonna change my mind about it either.
Watch the short documentary when you have a moment and tell me you don't feel any sympathy for them.

Obviously, some people abuse drugs for no good reason, but many are drawn into that kind of life.
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Old 09-27-2013, 11:40 AM   #54
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send me that documentary when you're done w/it, bro.
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Like someone earlier said, just Google Krokodil Tears. Click on the result from vine.com.
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Watch the short documentary when you have a moment and tell me you don't feel any sympathy for them.

Obviously, some people abuse drugs for no good reason, but many are drawn into that kind of life.
Dude, I grew up in the culture. There are few things about drug use and abuse that are goin to be an epiphany in my world.
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I'm interested to know what kind of high it gives you. Is it supposed to be similar to heroin?
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I'm interested to know what kind of high it gives you. Is it supposed to be similar to heroin?
Supposedly yes. I've heard it's stronger than heroin.
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Dude, I grew up in the culture. There are few things about drug use and abuse that are goin to be an epiphany in my world.
Fair enough.

I'm not trying to be disrespectful here, and I don't know anything about what you grew up around, but the particular city visited in that documentary looks like, and in many ways is a 3rd world environment. Very tough situations for those people.

I'm not saying you have to watch it or anything, but if you did, I would be interested in hearing your thoughts on it.
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