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Old 09-26-2013, 11:57 PM  
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Flesh-Eating Drug Krokodil Finally Shows Up in the US

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Krokodil, already a popular drug in Russia, has finally made its way to the United States. The Banner Poison Control Center in Arizona has reported two cases of the flesh-rotting drug’s use, believed to be the first in the US.

The drug is a mixture of codeine and hydrocarbons like gasoline, paint thinner, or oil that is injected directly into veins. It’s named krokodil because once injected, it rots your skin from the inside out, causing an alligator skin-like appearance. It’s really, really gross. You probably want to avoid the YouTube videos.

Dr. Frank LoVecchio, the co-medical director at Banner's Poison Control Center, said, “we're extremely frightened." He elaborates on the flesh-eating drugs that often sell for ten to 20 times less than the cost of heroin:

"They cause damage to the blood vessels damage to the tissue and there are horrific pictures from Russia that show skin literally falling off the bone."

He also believes the two cases in Arizona are related, but wouldn’t say more except to add, "Where there is smoke there is fire, and we're afraid there are going to be more and more cases."
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Old 09-27-2013, 03:57 PM   #106
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Old 09-27-2013, 04:15 PM   #107
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Ya, ive had family members who were addicted to drugs. I myself have taken acid, snorted Ecstasy, and smoked a lot of weed. Thats it never had the urge to try anything harder then that stuff. Acid and Ecstasy were so much fun though.
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Old 09-27-2013, 04:40 PM   #108
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So why would someone use this?

They start with oxy and it gets out of hand. It gets too expensive to support their addiction. So they move to heroin, since it is cheaper, and they get pulled further into their addiction. Once they can't fund their heroin habit any longer, this becomes the alternative and by that time they will do anything to get their fix. At that point ratio al thinking doesn't enter into the picture. No one is going to try this that isn't already strung out on heroin or some other major opiate addiction.
Perfect summary, by the time you start to even consider something like this, your soul is a putrid, rotting mess... you'll try anything at this point.
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Old 09-27-2013, 09:08 PM   #109
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You know simply ending the prohibition on drugs will prevent anybody from actually shooting up such a combination. Making drugs legal makes them safer to use, cheaper to buy, reduces violence, and makes the manufacturer liable for their product. There really isn't a downside compared to the terror, death, and loss of civil rights that prohibition has produced.
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Old 09-27-2013, 09:11 PM   #110
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You know simply ending the prohibition on drugs will prevent anybody from actually shooting up such a combination. Making drugs legal makes them safer to use, cheaper to buy, reduces violence, and makes the manufacturer liable for their product. There really isn't a downside compared to the terror, death, and loss of civil rights that prohibition has produced.
Not to mention saving millions in tax dollars by releasing non-violent drug abusers from incarceration. The war on drugs is one of the biggest downfalls of this country, and this is from someone that cant and wouldn't use them even if I could.
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Old 09-27-2013, 09:13 PM   #111
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Drugs are legal in Amsterdam right? I know one of those countries you go to a clinic tell them your a heroine addict and a nurse shoots you up.
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Old 09-27-2013, 09:18 PM   #112
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Not to mention saving millions in tax dollars by releasing non-violent drug abusers from incarceration. The war on drugs is one of the biggest downfalls of this country, and this is from someone that cant and wouldn't use them even if I could.
Billions of dollars per year go towards the war on drugs.
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Old 09-27-2013, 09:57 PM   #113
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Got a buddy that balances out his bi-polar with acid and coke. He just got a $35 million inheritance from his dad who invented internet domain licensing. You should see this guy...
Some studies are coming out now showing the potential for Acid and Shrooms as a treatment for things such as depression. Of course Leary ****ed it up and now the shit is all taboo to do.
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Old 09-27-2013, 10:10 PM   #114
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Some studies are coming out now showing the potential for Acid and Shrooms as a treatment for things such as depression. Of course Leary ****ed it up and now the shit is all taboo to do.
There have also been studies that hallucinogenics can be good for treating PTSD and other traumatic psychological events.
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Old 09-27-2013, 10:13 PM   #115
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Supposedly this problem started with our occupation of Afghanistan. Afghanistan provided the majority of Russia's heroin, and we've dealt a huge blow to the Afghan's heroin production. The Russian addicts are finding it extremely difficult to get their hands on heroin now, so they came up with this. So like everything else in the world, this is being blamed on the good ol' USA.
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Old 09-27-2013, 11:54 PM   #116
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Drugs are legal in Amsterdam right? I know one of those countries you go to a clinic tell them your a heroine addict and a nurse shoots you up.
No drugs are legal in the Netherlands.
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Old 09-28-2013, 12:32 AM   #118
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Pot was definitely a gateway drug for me. I ended up trying a TON of drugs from the ages of 14-21.
or high school was a gateway to drugs.
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Old 09-28-2013, 03:28 AM   #119
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I ran the full spectrum when it came to meth. I started off by smoking it....and then was told that snorting it was a better high. Moved to snorting it for a while and always told myself that I would never shoot up. Ended up shooting up after about a year and I did that for the last 3 months. I can look back now and realize just how completely ****ing stupid I was....but I was using it to better myself because I was dropping weight to get into the Air Force. I dropped 80 lbs in 6 months. The last night before I went to MEPS though was probably the worst. I knew that I was never going to get to do it again.....so I did two syringes....one in each arm.

People always complain that basic training is hard.......try doing that shit coming down off of meth. ****.
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Old 09-28-2013, 04:32 AM   #120
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1. It's not so much landing on US soil as returning. The opiod Desomorphine was patented in the US, and originally researched as a non-addictive heroin/morphine alternative. Turned out way more addictive and way more quickly addictive, so research was dropped.

2. It can be simulated/approximated using common household items. But this just leads to a highly addictive, quickly addictive, highly adulterated product. Desomorphine doesn't cause the horrible side effects any more than alcohol causes blindness. But the adulteration/lack of filtration does.

3. Part of the addiction is, when you initially get the 'hot shot' that causes the skin wasting, etc., you come off your high in extreme and very real pain. So, in addition to the innate addictive qualities of Desomorphine, you have a strong need for pain relief, which the Krocodil provides.
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