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Old 09-28-2013, 04:02 PM  
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Boehner's Deal to Avoid a Shut Down

Seems reasonable...
  • Repeal of the Medical Device Tax
  • One year delay on the individual mandate
  • The Senate's Continuing Resolution gets pushed to December 15th
  • Troops get paid regardless


http://www.speaker.gov/press-release...stop-obamacare

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Old 09-29-2013, 09:09 AM   #91
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So they didn't lose the popular vote in the House???
If you're talking about Republicans, they won a solid majority in the House. We elect the House members on a district by district basis. Republicans won a majority of the popular vote in a majority of districts.
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Old 09-29-2013, 09:09 AM   #92
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You seem like the kind of person that blames the pedestrian in the crosswalk for not avoiding an oncoming car.
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Old 09-29-2013, 09:11 AM   #93
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You seem like the kind of person that blames the pedestrian in the crosswalk for not avoiding an oncoming car.
It depends on the circumstances. I blame the person who is actually responsible whether they're in the crosswalk or behind the wheel.

Do you always blame the driver regardless of the circumstances? That doesn't surprise me.
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Old 09-29-2013, 09:12 AM   #94
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So they didn't lose the popular vote in the House???
Not sure if serious?
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Old 09-29-2013, 09:13 AM   #95
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If you're talking about Republicans, they won a solid majority in the House. We elect the House members on a district by district basis. Republicans won a majority of the popular vote in a majority of districts.
Thanks for the civics lesson, and spare me your pedagogical bullshit.
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Old 09-29-2013, 09:14 AM   #96
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Not sure if serious?
You think R's won the popular vote????????
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Old 09-29-2013, 09:15 AM   #97
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Thanks for the civics lesson, and spare me your pedagogical bullshit.
Sorry, it wasn't clear that you understood how it worked.
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Old 09-29-2013, 09:17 AM   #98
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Sorry, it wasn't clear that you understood how it worked.
I'm not the one that thinks a narrow win in 1/2 of 1 out of 3 branches of government validates my partisan agenda.
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Old 09-29-2013, 09:18 AM   #99
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The Republicans are a majority in the people's House, where spending bills originate.
Ah, that's right.

I assume it's because they won more votes this past year, is that right?
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Old 09-29-2013, 09:19 AM   #100
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Republicans want to defund Obamacare completely or repeal it outright. They've offered to settle for postponing the individual mandate (to bring it in line with the corporate mandate) and repealing the medical device tax.
That's not giving up anything.

That's simply making a less radical extortion offer.
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Old 09-29-2013, 09:19 AM   #101
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Ah, that's right.

I assume it's because they won more votes this past year, is that right?
Before I answer this question, do you feel like you need a civics lesson?
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Old 09-29-2013, 09:20 AM   #102
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A year ago, democrats lost the vote for the House of Representatives running on the idea that we should have more of the same.

They got thumped.

So now they're eager to shut down government or default on our debt unless they get everything they want and not one iota less.

Can a liberal in this thread please explain how this isn't a drastically irresponsible attempt at extorting policies they couldn't democratically win on?
You're going to have to explain this.
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Old 09-29-2013, 09:20 AM   #103
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You think R's won the popular vote????????
So when the republicans swept both houses in '94 and had their budget battle with Clinton in '95 that resulted in a government shut down, did you say that Clinton should accept what the republicans wanted since he didn't win the popular vote in his election (either time).

Stop being hypocritical. The popular vote doesn't mean dick. The republicans won a majority of the seats in the house. Deal with it.
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Before I answer this question, do you feel like you need a civics lesson?
I love a good civics lesson.
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So when the republicans swept both houses in '94 and had their budget battle with Clinton in '95 that resulted in a government shut down, did you say that Clinton should accept what the republicans wanted since he didn't win the popular vote in his election (either time).
That's not the argument he's making at all, smart guy.

But nice try.
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