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Old 09-28-2013, 04:02 PM  
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Boehner's Deal to Avoid a Shut Down

Seems reasonable...
  • Repeal of the Medical Device Tax
  • One year delay on the individual mandate
  • The Senate's Continuing Resolution gets pushed to December 15th
  • Troops get paid regardless


http://www.speaker.gov/press-release...stop-obamacare

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Old 09-29-2013, 09:21 AM   #106
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That's not giving up anything.

That's simply making a less radical extortion offer.
No, that's giving up something. Your semantic games don't play with me.
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Old 09-29-2013, 09:22 AM   #107
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I love a good civics lesson.
Wonderful. See post 91. Pittsie was a little touchy about it so I thought I'd ask.
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Old 09-29-2013, 09:22 AM   #108
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No, that's giving up something. Your semantic games don't play with me.
Rich.

So if I'm demanding that you simply cut off your arm, after my original offer was to cut off all four of your limbs, so I won't throw your wife off a cliff, I've clearly compromised.
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Old 09-29-2013, 09:22 AM   #109
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You're going to have to explain this.
It seems self explanatory to me. What part is giving you trouble?
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Old 09-29-2013, 09:23 AM   #110
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Wonderful. See post 91. Pittsie was a little touchy about it so I thought I'd ask.
School me further, pat.

How could they have won a solid majority? They lost the popular vote nationwide, right?
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Old 09-29-2013, 09:23 AM   #111
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It seems self explanatory to me. What part is giving you trouble?
The argument you're trying to make.
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Old 09-29-2013, 09:24 AM   #112
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So when the republicans swept both houses in '94 and had their budget battle with Clinton in '95 that resulted in a government shut down, did you say that Clinton should accept what the republicans wanted since he didn't win the popular vote in his election (either time).

Stop being hypocritical. The popular vote doesn't mean dick. The republicans won a majority of the seats in the house. Deal with it.
He won the popular vote by a plurality, genious.
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Old 09-29-2013, 09:25 AM   #113
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The republicans won a majority of the seats in the house. Deal with it.


The Democrats won the Senate and the Presidency. Thats 2 out of 3 branches of government. Deal with it.

You don't get to get your way or blow the whole thing up.
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Old 09-29-2013, 09:25 AM   #114
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He won the popular vote by a plurality, genious.
Spin away baby, spin away.
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Old 09-29-2013, 09:26 AM   #115
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The Democrats won the Senate and the Presidency. Thats 2 out of 3 branches of government. Deal with it.
The house controls the purse strings. Deal with it.
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Old 09-29-2013, 09:31 AM   #116
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School me further, pat.

How could they have won a solid majority? They lost the popular vote nationwide, right?
According to wikipedia, Republicans hold 233 House seats to the democrats 200. Solid majority.

I'm not sure what relevance the popular vote nationwide has to our system. About as much as the votes in Botswana and Canada have, I think.
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Old 09-29-2013, 11:51 AM   #117
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That's not giving up anything.

That's simply making a less radical extortion offer.
more like being held up with a .38 instead of a .45...

somehow, i don't feel better...
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Old 09-29-2013, 12:25 PM   #118
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That's not giving up anything.

That's simply making a less radical extortion offer.
Obama passed Obamacare without a single Republican vote. Whether you call this extortion or not, it's the result of dumb politics. It was a dumb idea to do it, and now Obama is paying for that dumb idea.

This is what you get when poor leadership passes huge programs without buy-in from across the aisle.
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Old 09-29-2013, 12:28 PM   #119
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So the Democrats have been threatening a default/gov't shutdown if a laundry list of their needs hasn't been met, too?
Actually, to be accurate, the Republicans haven't threatened shut down. It's Obama and Reid who were threatening the shut down.
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Old 09-29-2013, 12:34 PM   #120
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Actually, to be accurate, the Republicans haven't threatened shut down. It's Obama and Reid who were threatening the shut down.
Truth. Like watching a 4 year old who wants a second dish of ice-cream. Sad how these people choose to behave and wonder why they are seen as assclowns. Obamas favorability is cratering and will fall to new lows if this happens and he doesn't step up.
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