Home Mail MemberMap Chat (0) Wallpapers
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > The Ed & Dave Lounge

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-30-2013, 12:46 PM  
AndChiefs AndChiefs is offline
Bazinga!
 
AndChiefs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Houston, TX
Casino cash: $650
Blackberry's fall

I thought this was an interesting piece about Research in Motion (RIM/maker of Blackberries) and how it went from the top of the cell phone world to its current predicament. The article itself is quite long and probably won't be everyone's cup of tea but I recommend reading it if you're at all interested in business.

Mods: Feel free to move to the Media Center if you wish but I figured it was interesting enough to put out here where more than five people might actually see it.

Short excerpt:

Quote:
“The problem wasn’t that we stopped listening to customers,” said one former RIM insider. “We believed we knew better what customers needed long term than they did. Consumers would say, ‘I want a faster browser.’ We might say, ‘You might think you want a faster browser, but you don’t want to pay overage on your bill.’ ‘Well, I want a super big very responsive touchscreen.’ ‘Well, you might think you want that, but you don’t want your phone to die at 2 p.m.’ “We would say, ‘We know better, and they’ll eventually figure it out.’ ”
Read the story here.
Posts: 4,872
AndChiefs Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.AndChiefs Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.AndChiefs Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.AndChiefs Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.AndChiefs Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.AndChiefs Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.AndChiefs Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.AndChiefs Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.AndChiefs Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.AndChiefs Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.AndChiefs Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2013, 12:52 PM   #2
KC_Lee KC_Lee is offline
Peace kills...
 
KC_Lee's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Madison, TN
Casino cash: $126
That and the fact that Jim Balsillie was more interested in getting an NHL in Hamilton, ONT than growing his company.
__________________
“There is no absolute knowledge. And those who claim it, whether they are scientists or dogmatists, open the door to tragedy.” - Jacob Bronowski, The Ascent of Man
Posts: 2,738
KC_Lee wants to die in a aids tree fire.KC_Lee wants to die in a aids tree fire.KC_Lee wants to die in a aids tree fire.KC_Lee wants to die in a aids tree fire.KC_Lee wants to die in a aids tree fire.KC_Lee wants to die in a aids tree fire.KC_Lee wants to die in a aids tree fire.KC_Lee wants to die in a aids tree fire.KC_Lee wants to die in a aids tree fire.KC_Lee wants to die in a aids tree fire.KC_Lee wants to die in a aids tree fire.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2013, 12:56 PM   #3
Molitoth Molitoth is offline
Chiefs Rubberneck
 
Molitoth's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2004
Casino cash: $7031
Interesting. Even though the company I work for is doing well, stories like this bring realization that nothing good lasts forever.
Posts: 11,406
Molitoth is too fat/Omaha.Molitoth is too fat/Omaha.Molitoth is too fat/Omaha.Molitoth is too fat/Omaha.Molitoth is too fat/Omaha.Molitoth is too fat/Omaha.Molitoth is too fat/Omaha.Molitoth is too fat/Omaha.Molitoth is too fat/Omaha.Molitoth is too fat/Omaha.Molitoth is too fat/Omaha.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2013, 01:04 PM   #4
listopencil listopencil is offline
sic semper tyrannis
 
listopencil's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: In Partibus Infidelium
Casino cash: $7560
It's funny. Just a year ago my kids and I had cheap little phones from Metro PCS. I finally upgraded to a smart phone, then did the same with my kids. Our cheap little low end phones worked just like the Blackberry.
__________________
"As I walked out the door toward the gate that would lead to my freedom, I knew if I didn't leave my bitterness and hatred behind I'd still be in prison."


Posts: 28,409
listopencil is obviously part of the inner Circle.listopencil is obviously part of the inner Circle.listopencil is obviously part of the inner Circle.listopencil is obviously part of the inner Circle.listopencil is obviously part of the inner Circle.listopencil is obviously part of the inner Circle.listopencil is obviously part of the inner Circle.listopencil is obviously part of the inner Circle.listopencil is obviously part of the inner Circle.listopencil is obviously part of the inner Circle.listopencil is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2013, 01:08 PM   #5
Brainiac Brainiac is offline
Veteran
 
Brainiac's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Lenexa, KS
Casino cash: $6217
Quote:
Originally Posted by listopencil View Post
It's funny. Just a year ago my kids and I had cheap little phones from Metro PCS. I finally upgraded to a smart phone, then did the same with my kids. Our cheap little low end phones worked just like the Blackberry.
Before the iPhones and Android phones took over the market, Blackberry was the best thing going. Several years ago we were using smart phones, and they were simply not very good.

We made Blackberry phones the standard for all smart phones in my company, and it solved a bunch of problems we were having with reliability. Then a few years later we changed the standard to iPhones. I felt pretty good about both decisions. Blackberries were great in their day, but that day is gone.

I don't see how RIM can survive.
Posts: 4,296
Brainiac is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Brainiac is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Brainiac is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Brainiac is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Brainiac is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Brainiac is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Brainiac is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Brainiac is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Brainiac is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Brainiac is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Brainiac is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2013, 01:09 PM   #6
vailpass vailpass is offline
Yah Mules!
 
vailpass's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2001
Casino cash: $6877
Berry was the first smart phone I had years ago. It was great.
Then they just...stopped.
__________________
It don't matter what line we hand you
When we come a crawlin' in.
We ain't wrong, we ain't sorry,
An' it's probably gonna happen again.

T. Byrd
Posts: 36,801
vailpass is obviously part of the inner Circle.vailpass is obviously part of the inner Circle.vailpass is obviously part of the inner Circle.vailpass is obviously part of the inner Circle.vailpass is obviously part of the inner Circle.vailpass is obviously part of the inner Circle.vailpass is obviously part of the inner Circle.vailpass is obviously part of the inner Circle.vailpass is obviously part of the inner Circle.vailpass is obviously part of the inner Circle.vailpass is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2013, 01:22 PM   #7
BigMeatballDave BigMeatballDave is offline
That's a spicy meatball!
 
BigMeatballDave's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Casino cash: $7930
Arrogant jackasses.
Posts: 51,025
BigMeatballDave has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.BigMeatballDave has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.BigMeatballDave has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.BigMeatballDave has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.BigMeatballDave has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.BigMeatballDave has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.BigMeatballDave has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.BigMeatballDave has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.BigMeatballDave has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.BigMeatballDave has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.BigMeatballDave has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2013, 01:24 PM   #8
AndChiefs AndChiefs is offline
Bazinga!
 
AndChiefs's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Houston, TX
Casino cash: $650
Quote:
Originally Posted by vailpass View Post
Berry was the first smart phone I had years ago. It was great.
Then they just...stopped.
A lot of the reason this was so interesting to me. A blackberry was my first one as well. I still have one through work. It feels even less technologically advanced than my old one from several years ago.
__________________
Posts: 4,872
AndChiefs Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.AndChiefs Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.AndChiefs Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.AndChiefs Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.AndChiefs Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.AndChiefs Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.AndChiefs Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.AndChiefs Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.AndChiefs Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.AndChiefs Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.AndChiefs Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2013, 01:27 PM   #9
Graystoke Graystoke is offline
Veteran
 
Graystoke's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Driftless Region
Casino cash: $5713
Self-inflicted suicide
Posts: 1,758
Graystoke 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliGraystoke 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliGraystoke 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliGraystoke 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliGraystoke 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliGraystoke 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliGraystoke 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliGraystoke 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliGraystoke 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliGraystoke 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliGraystoke 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2013, 01:34 PM   #10
vailpass vailpass is offline
Yah Mules!
 
vailpass's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2001
Casino cash: $6877
Quote:
Originally Posted by AndChiefs View Post
A lot of the reason this was so interesting to me. A blackberry was my first one as well. I still have one through work. It feels even less technologically advanced than my old one from several years ago.
They had the market by the balls but it's like they fired their r&d team...the op makes sense. Hubris.
__________________
It don't matter what line we hand you
When we come a crawlin' in.
We ain't wrong, we ain't sorry,
An' it's probably gonna happen again.

T. Byrd
Posts: 36,801
vailpass is obviously part of the inner Circle.vailpass is obviously part of the inner Circle.vailpass is obviously part of the inner Circle.vailpass is obviously part of the inner Circle.vailpass is obviously part of the inner Circle.vailpass is obviously part of the inner Circle.vailpass is obviously part of the inner Circle.vailpass is obviously part of the inner Circle.vailpass is obviously part of the inner Circle.vailpass is obviously part of the inner Circle.vailpass is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2013, 01:42 PM   #11
Buehler445 Buehler445 is offline
Supporter
 
Buehler445's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Scott City KS
Casino cash: $7406
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brainiac View Post
Before the iPhones and Android phones took over the market, Blackberry was the best thing going. Several years ago we were using smart phones, and they were simply not very good.

We made Blackberry phones the standard for all smart phones in my company, and it solved a bunch of problems we were having with reliability. Then a few years later we changed the standard to iPhones. I felt pretty good about both decisions. Blackberries were great in their day, but that day is gone.

I don't see how RIM can survive.
They're not. I'm not sure when the last quarter was that they turned a profit. They're just eating equity until the inevitable end.

I really liked BB. They just didn't keep pace.
Posts: 21,593
Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2013, 01:56 PM   #12
AndChiefs AndChiefs is offline
Bazinga!
 
AndChiefs's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Houston, TX
Casino cash: $650
Quote:
Originally Posted by vailpass View Post
They had the market by the balls but it's like they fired their r&d team...the op makes sense. Hubris.
I actually liked a couple of their ideas they didn't do (without knowing the full details of course).

The China deal and blackberry messenger providing seem like particularly egregious missed opportunities.
__________________
Posts: 4,872
AndChiefs Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.AndChiefs Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.AndChiefs Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.AndChiefs Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.AndChiefs Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.AndChiefs Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.AndChiefs Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.AndChiefs Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.AndChiefs Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.AndChiefs Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.AndChiefs Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2013, 02:05 PM   #13
Hoover Hoover is offline
Rufus Dawes Jr.
 
Hoover's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Casino cash: $6209
You could write the story of BB's fail in one sentence.

"Things were great, we were kicking ass until Google and Apple chose to enter the market."
Posts: 8,403
Hoover 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliHoover 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliHoover 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliHoover 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliHoover 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliHoover 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliHoover 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliHoover 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliHoover 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliHoover 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliHoover 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2013, 02:09 PM   #14
Hoover Hoover is offline
Rufus Dawes Jr.
 
Hoover's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Casino cash: $6209
A company like RIM needed to be bought out by Google, who bought a struggling motorola in 2012. The only company that impresses me is Samsung, but they run on the android
Posts: 8,403
Hoover 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliHoover 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliHoover 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliHoover 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliHoover 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliHoover 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliHoover 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliHoover 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliHoover 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliHoover 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliHoover 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2013, 02:12 PM   #15
vailpass vailpass is offline
Yah Mules!
 
vailpass's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2001
Casino cash: $6877
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoover View Post
You could write the story of BB's fail in one sentence.

"Things were great, we were kicking ass until Google and Apple chose to enter the market."
That seems about right...android is so customer friendly.
__________________
It don't matter what line we hand you
When we come a crawlin' in.
We ain't wrong, we ain't sorry,
An' it's probably gonna happen again.

T. Byrd
Posts: 36,801
vailpass is obviously part of the inner Circle.vailpass is obviously part of the inner Circle.vailpass is obviously part of the inner Circle.vailpass is obviously part of the inner Circle.vailpass is obviously part of the inner Circle.vailpass is obviously part of the inner Circle.vailpass is obviously part of the inner Circle.vailpass is obviously part of the inner Circle.vailpass is obviously part of the inner Circle.vailpass is obviously part of the inner Circle.vailpass is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:05 PM.


This is a test for a client's site.
A new website that shows member-created construction site listings that need fill or have excess fill. Dirt Monkey @ https://DirtMonkey.net
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.