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Old 09-30-2013, 12:33 PM  
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Senate kills House spending bill

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...spending-bill/
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Old 09-30-2013, 08:45 PM   #136
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Does it make a difference?
Kind of. I guess it depends on what the 12 changes were. Honestly i havent heard other than the waiver to 50+ employers.

Government agencies are supposed to write regulations that implement law, it goes with the territory. But they can only fill in gaps, and not alter the underlying law.
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Old 09-30-2013, 08:46 PM   #137
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Utter bull ****ing bull shit. Obama has himself changed the law after that election. Good god you are a retard if you really believe what you just posted.
Changes in the law require an act of congress, you moron.

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Old 09-30-2013, 08:47 PM   #138
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Looks like the House isn't doing any more votes tonight. Great job Reps for shutting down the government.

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Old 09-30-2013, 08:48 PM   #139
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Looks like the House isn't doing any more votes tonight. Great job Reps for shutting down the government.

Nah, I give the credit to the dems. Great job at making sure they get special treatment at our expense. Kudos! I know that makes my life better somehow.
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Old 09-30-2013, 08:49 PM   #140
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Oh and the House finally caved on trying to conference with the Senate.
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Old 09-30-2013, 08:49 PM   #141
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Changes in the law require an act of congress, you moron.

Also, as you may or may not know, I have almost ZERO tolerance for this kind of flaming. You think I'm a "retard"? OK, fine. Feel free to continue your inane shouting at me, but I won't hear it.

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Uh when did congress vote to delay Obamacare for big business?
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Old 09-30-2013, 08:49 PM   #142
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Looks like the House isn't doing any more votes tonight. Great job Reps for shutting down the government.

Dirty ****ers. Arm yourself. The prisons will open. Food inspections will stop. God save us.
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Changes in the law require an act of congress, you moron.

Also, as you may or may not know, I have almost ZERO tolerance for this kind of flaming. You think I'm a "retard"? OK, fine. Feel free to continue your inane shouting at me, but I won't hear it.

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Old 09-30-2013, 08:51 PM   #144
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Uh when did congress vote to delay Obamacare for big business?
Obviously Obama has the legal authority to delay implementation. If he didn't, there would be a slew of lawsuits and injunctions filed against him.

Its pretty common, legislation often gives the executive some limited or broad leeway to modify implementation timelines. Its the same reason why the REAL-ID Act has been delayed by DHS for years and years, the law allows the executive to say "oops, we aren't ready, but we will implement this eventually, promise".
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Obviously Obama has the legal authority to delay implementation. If he didn't, there would be a slew of lawsuits and injunctions filed against him.

Its pretty common, legislation often gives the executive some limited or broad leeway to modify implementation timelines. Its the same reason why the REAL-ID Act has been delayed by DHS for years and years, the law allows the executive to say "oops, we aren't ready, but we will implement this eventually, promise".
Uh, there are.
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House rules committee wants to offer the senate a conference committee on the cr. Not sure how that would work since the same fundamental disagreement would exist. Maybe they,are planning on appointimg moderates to it?
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Historically, when has a House insisted on defunding a prior program to keep the government open? Ever?

Edit: also, the will of the people here was mixed at best. Yes to obama and dems in the senate and yes to reps in the house. Trying to divine the will of the people from that reminds me of juries giving guilty and not guilty verdicts and appellate court judges trying to get their crystal balls out and divine what that means.
Again. All I care about is the will of the people regarding ONE ISSUE.. funding. You can argue that the people are too ignorant to understand that when they voted in the House... but it is what it is.
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In 1979 the fed gov shut down for 12 days over a pay raise for congress. So all this scare tactic bullshit Reid and Obama are playing is just that.
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House rules committee wants to offer the senate a conference committee on the cr. Not sure how that would work since the same fundamental disagreement would exist. Maybe they,are planning on appointimg moderates to it?
Yep they caved on that. I guess there will be one more vote to pass this resolution according to CNN...possibly
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At least McCain gets it..

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