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Old 09-30-2013, 12:33 PM  
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Old 09-30-2013, 05:05 PM   #31
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So just because a law has been up held by the Supreme Court means that it can never be repealed? C'mon Dane, I know you aren't that stupid.
I seriously doubt it'll ever be repealed. And tying it to the debt ceiling is complete and utter bullshit.
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Old 09-30-2013, 05:08 PM   #32
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last one out turn off the lights. Obama will be on golf course if anyone needs him
I'm no fan of the guy anymore, but what's he supposed to do in this situation?

Let the Republicans kick him in the balls everytime we have to pay the bills? At some point you have to draw a line in the sand and say we're not negotiating with the hostage takers don't you?
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Old 09-30-2013, 05:09 PM   #33
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I seriously doubt it'll ever be repealed. And tying it to the debt ceiling is complete and utter bullshit.
A) Probably not. That doesn't mean people who ran on repealing it should not try to follow through on their campaign promise.

B) I completely disagree. It is part of the debt problem. I see no reason why it, or any other spending issue should not be attached to the debt ceiling discussion. Gay marriage, you have a point. But actual spending that contributes to the debt, not so much.
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Old 09-30-2013, 05:11 PM   #34
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I'm no fan of the guy anymore, but what's he supposed to do in this situation?

Let the Republicans kick him in the balls everytime we have to pay the bills? At some point you have to draw a line in the sand and say we're not negotiating with the hostage takers don't you?
Last time we had the Obama suggested sequester and when that came to pass all Obama did was cry about it even though it was his idea.

If I were Boehner I would have started this a long time ago and told them to take a ****ing hike after they took the heat over Obama's idea.
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Old 09-30-2013, 05:11 PM   #35
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A) Probably not. That doesn't mean people who ran on repealing it should not try to follow through on their campaign promise.

B) I completely disagree. It is part of the debt problem. I see no reason why it, or any other spending issue should not be attached to the debt ceiling discussion. Gay marriage, you have a point. But actual spending that contributes to the debt, not so much.
It's not part of the debt problem. It hasn't even gone into effect!

The biggest part of the debt problem is two unfunded and unnecessary wars and massively bloated military budget.
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Old 09-30-2013, 05:12 PM   #36
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Last time we had the Obama suggested sequester and when that came to pass all Obama did was cry about it even though it was his idea.

If I were Boehner I would have started this a long time ago and told them to take a ****ing hike after they took the heat over Obama's idea.
I can't wait until the day that fake tanned, crocodile teared piece of garbage is voted out of office.

I despise that phony piece of shit more than any politician in my lifetime.
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Old 09-30-2013, 05:13 PM   #37
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It's not part of the debt problem. It hasn't even gone into effect!

The biggest part of the debt problem is two unfunded and unnecessary wars and massively bloated military budget.
Yeah, the billions upon billions of entitlement spending is peanuts.
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Old 09-30-2013, 05:14 PM   #38
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I can't wait until the day that fake tanned, crocodile teared piece of garbage is voted out of office.

I despise that phony piece of shit more than any politician in my lifetime.
I am no fan of Boehner by any means. Simply because he is a pussy and part of the McCain style status quo.
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Old 09-30-2013, 05:16 PM   #39
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Yeah, the billions upon billions of entitlement spending is peanuts.
Yeah, and you go ahead and explain to your parents that they shouldn't be allowed to collect Social Security, even though it was their money in which they were forced to contribute.

I'm sure that'll go over really well.
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Old 09-30-2013, 05:22 PM   #40
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Yeah, and you go ahead and explain to your parents that they shouldn't be allowed to collect Social Security, even though it was their money in which they were forced to contribute.

I'm sure that'll go over really well.
Thats a ****ing fact! As a man in my early 50s who reads how the baby boomers are greedy having never accepted a dime from the god damn government it pisses me off. How about they just give what they took from me and keep the employers cut and stop taking anymore and we can call it even~
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Old 09-30-2013, 05:24 PM   #41
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Yeah, and you go ahead and explain to your parents that they shouldn't be allowed to collect Social Security, even though it was their money in which they were forced to contribute.

I'm sure that'll go over really well.
WTF does that have to do with the fact that entitlement spending is a huge problem?
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Old 09-30-2013, 05:26 PM   #42
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It's not part of the debt problem. It hasn't even gone into effect!

The biggest part of the debt problem is two unfunded and unnecessary wars and massively bloated military budget.
I am pretty sure that parts of it have already gone into effect. And it is part of the debt problem because even if none of it has gone into effect it is on the books to do so. It is more reckless spending that contributes to the debt today, tomorrow, whenever. It is most certainly a part of the debt discussion, regardless of how people want to spin it.
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WTF does that have to do with the fact that entitlement spending is a huge problem?
Is this a trick question?
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Yeah, and you go ahead and explain to your parents that they shouldn't be allowed to collect Social Security, even though it was their money in which they were forced to contribute.

I'm sure that'll go over really well.
It's the 90s all over again.
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I am pretty sure that parts of it have already gone into effect. And it is part of the debt problem because even if none of it has gone into effect it is on the books to do so. It is more reckless spending that contributes to the debt today, tomorrow, whenever. It is most certainly a part of the debt discussion, regardless of how people want to spin it.
The insurance exchanges have yet to go into effect. That's the part of the bill that the Republicans and Tea Partiers are using to scare their constituents.
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