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Old 09-30-2013, 01:33 PM  
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Senate kills House spending bill

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Old 09-30-2013, 06:27 PM   #46
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Is this a trick question?
Dude, you live at ground 0. You of all people have first hand knowledge of a state that is flat ****ing broke....and why? I am not saying peeps shouldn't get what they have coming to them and have earned. I am saying that there is a lot more to entitlements beyond SS.
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Old 09-30-2013, 06:28 PM   #47
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Thats a ****ing fact! As a man in my early 50s who reads how the baby boomers are greedy having never accepted a dime from the god damn government it pisses me off. How about they just give what they took from me and keep the employers cut and stop taking anymore and we can call it even~
Hell, I'd gladly give up my share to help pay off people who have contributed longer than I have just to see it done away with.
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Old 09-30-2013, 06:31 PM   #48
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Dude, you live at ground 0. You of all people have first hand knowledge of a state that is flat ****ing broke....and why? I am not saying peeps shouldn't get what they have coming to them and have earned. I am saying that there is a lot more to entitlements beyond SS.


Actually, we have a budget surplus. This state is NOT broke. Jerry Brown has reduced spending and has increased taxes.

He's also taxed internet businesses like Amazon and Guitar Center and Musician's Friend along with countless others. If a company has offices in Cali, the citizens are taxed with normal sales tax, something that went into effect in 2012.
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Old 09-30-2013, 06:31 PM   #49
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The insurance exchanges have yet to go into effect. That's the part of the bill that the Republicans and Tea Partiers are using to scare their constituents.
It still a spending bill that has been passed. It counts as a legitimate topic in the debt discussion.

And don't the exchanges open officially tomorrow?
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Old 09-30-2013, 06:34 PM   #50
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I am saying that there is a lot more to entitlements beyond SS.
Social Security is by FAR the largest entitlement program.
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Old 09-30-2013, 06:34 PM   #51
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It still a spending bill that has been passed. It counts as a legitimate topic in the debt discussion.

And don't the exchanges open officially tomorrow?
I think they open tomorrow, if the government is in business.

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Old 09-30-2013, 06:36 PM   #52
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I think they open tomorrow, if the government is in business.

So the difference of a few hours between tonight's midnight deadline and the exchanges opening in the morning is enough to say that it has not taken affect and so therefore cannot be taken into consideration as part of the debt? Really?
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Old 09-30-2013, 06:37 PM   #53
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Actually, we have a budget surplus. This state is NOT broke. Jerry Brown has reduced spending and has increased taxes.

He's also taxed internet businesses like Amazon and Guitar Center and Musician's Friend along with countless others. If a company has offices in Cali, the citizens are taxed with normal sales tax, something that went into effect in 2012.

For those not in California and not wasted on crack.....read this shit and ask why is California so ****ed.
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Old 09-30-2013, 06:38 PM   #54
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I think they open tomorrow, if the government is in business.

they open tomorrow regardless.
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Old 09-30-2013, 06:38 PM   #55
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Last time we had the Obama suggested sequester and when that came to pass all Obama did was cry about it even though it was his idea.

If I were Boehner I would have started this a long time ago and told them to take a ****ing hike after they took the heat over Obama's idea.
Sequestration was not Obama's idea to start, it was a compromise john boehner and the president agreed to to avoid a default on our debt.

Honestly if Reid had balls he would have passed a cr with a background check bill attached to show how absurd this is to try to craft policy by threatening our solvency.
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For those not in California and not wasted on crack.....read this shit and ask why is California so ****ed.
It's not and you're clueless
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So the difference of a few hours between tonight's midnight deadline and the exchanges opening in the morning is enough to say that it has not taken affect and so therefore cannot be taken into consideration as part of the debt? Really?
How many people are going to actually sign up? Is there an estimated number? Also, once again, the debt ceiling should be eliminated completely.

It's ridiculous. I mean, outright ridiculous.
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Is this a trick question?
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Right. You have a balanced budget. ****ing idiot. Do you understand anything about public finance? When your ignorant state declares bankruptcy right in front of Illinois come back and tell me how smart you are. ****ing nut bag.
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Right. You have a balanced budget. ****ing idiot. Do you understand anything about public finance? When your ignorant state declares bankruptcy right in front of Illinois come back and tell me how smart you are. ****ing nut bag.
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