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Old 09-30-2013, 04:39 PM  
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Moderate House Republicans may Revolt Tonight

New York Republicans Peter King and Michael Grimm have apparently whipped their colleagues and discovered that they have at least 25 republicans willing to join the Democrats to sign and enact a discharge petition. (For those who don't know what a discharge petition is, they are very rare since it basically requires rebelling against the house leadership. If a discharge petition has enough signatures, then a bill is forced to the house floor for a vote).

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Old 09-30-2013, 04:43 PM   #2
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New York Republicans Peter King and Michael Grimm have apparently whipped their colleagues and discovered that they have at least 25 republicans willing to join the Democrats to sign and enact a discharge petition. (For those who don't know what a discharge petition is, they are very rare since it basically requires rebelling against the house leadership. If a discharge petition has enough signatures, then a bill is forced to the house floor for a vote).

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Now we're talking. How great for Peter King and the Establishment Republicans to take a torch to the party when the base is rallying. It would make the 2014 elections that much more interesting.
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Old 09-30-2013, 04:48 PM   #3
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You nut jobs are hardly a base. Maybe the crazy old aunt locked in the basement.
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Old 09-30-2013, 04:51 PM   #4
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Fact is, the republicans NEED a good old fashioned conflagration/come to Jesus moment.

If they dont change in some ways, they will be irrelevant for atleast the next decade.
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Old 09-30-2013, 04:51 PM   #5
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You nut jobs are hardly a base. Maybe the crazy old aunt locked in the basement.
And yet, when we don't turn out to vote republicans don't have a lot of success. Go figure.
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Old 09-30-2013, 04:55 PM   #6
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And yet, when we don't turn out to vote republicans don't have a lot of success. Go figure.
Start you own party the republicans don't want or need you.
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quick correction, they wouldn't be able to force a vote on a clean CR until later next month according to the rules. What they are apparently planning to do tonight is join with the Dems to vote down the house GOP's latest counter-offer.
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Old 09-30-2013, 05:00 PM   #8
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quick correction, they wouldn't be able to force a vote on a clean CR until later next month according to the rules. What they are apparently planning to do tonight is join with the Dems to vote down the house GOP's latest counter-offer.
Get 'em on record!

I hope they do this. It complicates things for Boehner, who I have to respect for trying to navigate this thing, even if he doesn't have a good feel for it. But this move is more than I could have hoped for at the outset. A primary list in the Senate and a primary list in the House. That would be fantastic!

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Start you own party the republicans don't want or need you.
It is obvious they don't want us. I really don't even consider myself a republican any more due to the establishments attempts to push us out.

But I completely disagree about the need. The most success the Republican Party has had in modern times has been when conservatives show up to vote. When they do not, they tend to lose. You need us more than you want to admit.
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It is obvious they don't want us. I really don't even consider myself a republican any more due to the establishments attempts to push us out.

But I completely disagree about the need. The most success the Republican Party has had in modern times has been when conservatives show up to vote. When they do not, they tend to lose. You need us more than you want to admit.
He's a Democrat pining for the neocon wing of the party who created the wars, but left domestic spending alone.
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Update: Peter King's revolt completely disappeared. Only 2 moderates voted no. (along with 4 crazies who voted no because they didn't think the anti-Obamacare language in the CR was strong enough)

Apparently Boehner was somehow able to persuade most of them to stay in line.
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Peter King is as big an attention whore as Jesse Jackson.
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Peter King is as big an attention whore as Jesse Jackson.
That is actually accurate. He's usually too busy with wanting the USA to bomb other nations and screaming wild-eyed about terrorists lurking behind every corner to worry about this money stuff.
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That is actually accurate. He's usually too busy with wanting the USA to bomb other nations and screaming wild-eyed about terrorists lurking behind every corner to worry about this money stuff.
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