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Old 09-30-2013, 04:39 PM  
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Moderate House Republicans may Revolt Tonight

New York Republicans Peter King and Michael Grimm have apparently whipped their colleagues and discovered that they have at least 25 republicans willing to join the Democrats to sign and enact a discharge petition. (For those who don't know what a discharge petition is, they are very rare since it basically requires rebelling against the house leadership. If a discharge petition has enough signatures, then a bill is forced to the house floor for a vote).

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Old 09-30-2013, 07:39 PM   #31
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I went from Republican to Independent
Same here.
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Old 09-30-2013, 07:56 PM   #32
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Me too. I really say **** em' all. I think there are people on the right I agree with and some on the Left I agree with. But I am tired of this status quo level of bullshit that people like McCainm Reid and Pelosi have reigned over for far too long.
You and RNR need to make your own party where you give this lip service like you are sick of both parties yet fall in line to whatever hilarity the Republicans are up at to *every* single turn.

Spineless followers of a spineless party. It is a nice fit.
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Old 09-30-2013, 07:57 PM   #33
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While we are waiting for the house, I think this might be a good time to remind everyone that the tea party republicans are so stupid, they actually got Obama to agree to a chained CPI and to large Medicare/Medicaid/Social Security cuts in exchange for minor tax increases, and they refused that no-brainer of a deal because they were pretty sure Romney would win.

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Old 09-30-2013, 08:42 PM   #34
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If anyone cares, Harry Reid will speak on the Senate floor 11pm ET/10PM CT, on C-Span2
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Old 09-30-2013, 09:41 PM   #35
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That's funny. The trend I keep hearing about is that the D's capture the youth vote, and that's why they beat the R's for POTUS. Twice. With a shitty candidate. Go figure a bunch of kids don't really buy into the Bible thumping, gay bashing, war mongering, fat cat douchebags who have controlled the Republican party for a while. Hey. Maybe the Republicans should try something different.
I don't know who said it but, it fits perfectly here:

"If you are not a liberal at twenty, you have no heart and if you are not conservative at thirty, you have no brain."

The younger generation, since before I was born, trends more liberal. Your point in no way invalidates mine.
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Old 09-30-2013, 09:47 PM   #36
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Old 09-30-2013, 10:13 PM   #37
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I don't know who said it but, it fits perfectly here:

"If you are not a liberal at twenty, you have no heart and if you are not conservative at thirty, you have no brain."

The younger generation, since before I was born, trends more liberal. Your point in no way invalidates mine.
Sorry, but the Republicans with their

Nate Silver denialism
Evolution denialism
Climate change denialism
Demographic denialism
Sara Palinism
Michelle Bachmanism

doesn't have any claim to brainpower at the moment.
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Old 09-30-2013, 10:15 PM   #38
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Sorry, but the Republicans with their

Nate Silver denialism
Evolution denialism
Climate change denialism
Demographic denialism
Sara Palinism
Michelle Bachmanism

doesn't have any claim to brainpower at the moment.
Nancy Pelosi..........nothing else need be said
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Old 09-30-2013, 10:17 PM   #39
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Sorry, but the Republicans with their

Nate Silver denialism
Evolution denialism
Climate change denialism
Demographic denialism
Sara Palinism
Michelle Bachmanism

doesn't have any claim to brainpower at the moment.
Take a hard look at all of those on the Senate floor, if that's proof for evolution count me out. Oh and Climate change these idiots change climates on a whim so who is denying that?
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Old 09-30-2013, 10:19 PM   #40
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I don't know who said it but, it fits perfectly here:

"If you are not a liberal at twenty, you have no heart and if you are not conservative at thirty, you have no brain."

The younger generation, since before I was born, trends more liberal. Your point in no way invalidates mine.
If you are stuck on "liberal" versus "conservative" then you've already lost. You should be thinking authoritarian versus libertarian. The funny thing is, I am an actual conservative. More of a Barry Goldwater conservative. I didn't have to make up a new term like "neocon" to pretend not to bastardize my political beliefs.
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Old 09-30-2013, 10:21 PM   #41
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If you are stuck on "liberal" versus "conservative" then you've already lost. You should be thinking authoritarian versus libertarian. The funny thing is, I am an actual conservative. More of a Barry Goldwater conservative. I didn't have to make up a new term like "neocon" to pretend not to bastardize my political beliefs.
I agree. And as I see it, both of the major parties have majority authoritarian leaders, voters and policies.
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Old 09-30-2013, 10:28 PM   #42
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I agree. And as I see it, both of the major parties have majority authoritarian leaders, voters and policies.
Very true. I am currently a registered Libertarian because of that. I have been for about fifteen years.
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Nancy Pelosi..........nothing else need be said
I won't defend Pilosi and don't need to given that the Republicans appear to be proud to be the anti-science party.
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I won't defend Pilosi and don't need to given that the Republicans appear to be proud to be the anti-science party.
Their isnt a republican alive, that would argue against science being the only way you could possibly cobble together that bitch. She's test tube 101
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That's funny. The trend I keep hearing about is that the D's capture the youth vote, and that's why they beat the R's for POTUS. Twice. With a shitty candidate. Go figure a bunch of kids don't really buy into the Bible thumping, gay bashing, war mongering, fat cat douchebags who have controlled the Republican party for a while. Hey. Maybe the Republicans should try something different.
This. Most Young people I know who identify as republican crave fiscally conservative and socially liberal candidates. The more familiar GOP base is literally dying off.
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