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Old 10-01-2013, 09:37 AM  
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Has anybody actually been affected by the shut down yet?

Do we have any furloughed government workers posting?

Anybody sucking a living off the government teat worried about that next welfare check rolling in?

Anybody having to rethink that scheduled trip to the Grand Canyon next week?

Let's hear about it.
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Old 10-01-2013, 12:20 PM   #61
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You're hiring IT professionals in the greater Boston area?
When are you going to take me to a Pats game? I know you IT people have season tickets.
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Old 10-01-2013, 12:22 PM   #62
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While their benefits are generally better, the pay generally isn't. I'd like to see what evidence you cite for this statement.
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Old 10-01-2013, 12:24 PM   #63
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I haven't been able to get my free health care today.
Just go to an emergency room and tell them you can't pay.
Obamacare coverage doesn't kick in until Jan 1 anyway.
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Old 10-01-2013, 12:25 PM   #64
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Old 10-01-2013, 12:25 PM   #65
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Old 10-01-2013, 12:33 PM   #66
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You're hiring IT professionals in the greater Boston area?
I assume they'd have to be willing to relocate.
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Old 10-01-2013, 12:43 PM   #67
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When are you going to take me to a Pats game? I know you IT people have season tickets.

I'm not in IT, nor do I have Pats tix.
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Old 10-01-2013, 12:44 PM   #68
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Found it. It came from the CBO report directly.

What's interesting is you fail to note the BLS's study from a few months prior to the CBO's study (which the CBO noted the difficulty in making comparisons) , that indicates that public sector employees earn 26% less.

Surprised you didn't throat gop talking points like everyone else and go with Heritage's complete nonsense of public sector employees making 61% more than private sector.

Who do you think would do a better job of making pay comparisons? The BLS or the CBO?
nice job...you are correct on the source. Without knowing exactly which each source is looking at I can't tell you who did the better job. There are others like this one http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/...eral-pay_N.htm. there is a chart you have to click on that gives the jobs that reside in private and public sectors and what the pay is. There are very few exceptions where the public sector pay is higher in this study. Given this study I would conclude that BLS does a better job.
My point remains the same. Public sector pays higher. you would have to be a moron to use a spread of 61% as that doesn't even sound credible.
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Old 10-01-2013, 12:46 PM   #70
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Do we have any furloughed government workers posting?

Anybody sucking a living off the government teat worried about that next welfare check rolling in?

Anybody having to rethink that scheduled trip to the Grand Canyon next week?

Let's hear about it.
Yes. All my liberal friends are butt hurt over it.
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So you conservatives are ok with these items:?

Meat, poultry, and grain inspectors will continue to work. However, the USDA will not issue any statistical or economic reports, including reports on the prices and supply levels of agricultural commodities. These reports are particularly important to commodities markets. The Forest Service will close its offices and furlough the vast majority of its staff, with only a limited number of law enforcement and firefighting personnel remaining on duty. Campgrounds and other recreational sites will be shuttered.

Air traffic controllers will continue to work, but about 3,000 airline safety inspectors will be furloughed.

Veterans have already received pension, disability, and GI Bill payments for the month of October. If the shutdown lasts for more than two or three weeks, the VA may not be able to pay benefits for the month of November. The VA will continue to work on disability claims that were filed before the shutdown, but veterans may experience delays. New disability claims will not be processed during the shutdown and all appeals of disability claims will be suspended.

The Centers For Disease Control will not be able to conduct "in-depth investigations to identify and link outbreaks that may be occurring simultaneously in multiple states" or provide flu surveillance due to the furloughing of 68% of its employees.

The Environmental Protection Agency will furlough over 93% of its 16,205 employees. The Agency will almost entirely cease issuing licenses and permits, which may cause delays for companies seeking to build or expand facilities.

NASA will furlough 98% of its staff, leaving fewer than 600 out of 18,000 employees on the job. NASA will continue to support the astronauts on the International Space Station and the agency will maintain spacecraft that have already launched. However, work with unmanned spacecraft will be minimal. According to NASA spokesman Allard Beutel, the Curiosity rover currently on Mars "will be put in a protective mode for the security of the rover, but no new data-gathering will take place." The Hubble Space Telescope will continue to operate, but analysis of the data it collects will cease. Work on any spacecraft that have not yet launched will stop.[54][55] NASA TV, the organization's cable and IPTV network, was taken silent beyond a still screen.

The Small Business Administration will stop processing new loans to small businesses with the exception of loans to businesses affected by natural disasters. Existing loans will be unaffected. Programs that help mentor business owners, including businesses owned by veterans, will be shut down. About 62% of SBA employees will be furloughed.

The Smithsonian Institution will shut down. Among the attractions that will be closed are the National Museum of Natural History, the National Air and Space Museum, and the National Zoological Park. Skeleton crews will be on site to provide security and to feed and care for the animals.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...utdown_of_2013
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No IT and no pats tix? Twice as worthless.

Don't sweat it -- if I did have Pats tix I wouldn't give 'em to you anyway.
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Yes. All my liberal friends are butt hurt over it.

Guess which states GET more federal dollars compared to federal taxes paid? You might be surprised:


States Receiving Most in Federal Spending Per Dollar of Federal Taxes Paid:

1. D.C. ($6.17)
2. North Dakota ($2.03)
3. New Mexico ($1.89)
4. Mississippi ($1.84)
5. Alaska ($1.82)
6. West Virginia ($1.74)
7. Montana ($1.64)
8. Alabama ($1.61)
9. South Dakota ($1.59)
10. Arkansas ($1.53)

http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_b...ates_feed.html


How many of those states are red?

Frankly, the coasts/blue states largely get screwed on the redistribution of wealth, so if middle America wants a shutdown, then let's see how happy they are once all those programs shut down.

States Receiving Least in Federal Spending Per Dollar of Federal Taxes Paid:

1. New Jersey ($0.62)
2. Connecticut ($0.64)
3. New Hampshire ($0.68)
4. Nevada ($0.73)
5. Illinois ($0.77)
6. Minnesota ($0.77)
7. Colorado ($0.79)
8. Massachusetts ($0.79)
9. California ($0.81)
10. New York ($0.81)



Too bad military spending isn't included, now that I think about -- that's where the red states tend to clean up.
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