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Old 10-02-2013, 05:15 PM  
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Bank money seized, DL suspended, lien placed on your home if you don't get Obamacare

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A man who attempted to sign up for Obamacare online was told that a fine of over $4,000 dollars a year for refusing to take out mandatory health insurance could be taken directly from his bank account, and that his drivers license would be suspended and a federal tax lien placed against his home, according to an entry on the HealthCare.gov Facebook page.

“I actually made it through this morning at 8:00 A.M. I have a preexisting condition (Type 1 Diabetes) and my income base was 45K-55K annually I chose tier 2 “Silver Plan” and my monthly premiums came out to $597.00 with $13,988 yearly deductible!!! There is NO POSSIBLE way that I can afford this so I “opt-out” and chose to continue along with no insurance.

I received an email tonight at 5:00 P.M. informing me that my fine would be $4,037 and could be attached to my yearly income tax return. Then you make it to the “REPERCUSSIONS PORTION” for “non-payment” of yearly fine. First, your drivers license will be suspended until paid, and if you go 24 consecutive months with “Non-Payment” and you happen to be a home owner, you will have a federal tax lien placed on your home. You can agree to give your bank information so that they can easy “Automatically withdraw” your “penalties” weekly, bi-weekly or monthly! This by no means is “Free” or even “Affordable.”
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Old 10-02-2013, 05:20 PM   #2
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I don't understand how your driver's license can be suspended when it is issued by the State and not the Feds?
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Old 10-02-2013, 05:21 PM   #3
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Quick question looking for a quick answer.

What is it about Obamacare that is making the cost of Insurance inflate?

Google searching has led me to a bunch of articles stating that insurance premiums will go up, but they don't really do a good job of explaining why.
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Old 10-02-2013, 05:27 PM   #4
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I don't understand how your driver's license can be suspended when it is issued by the State and not the Feds?
Yeah, that doesn't seem right. I always hated that concept as a punishment, anyway. You want to make someone pay child support or a fine or whatever and so you take away their means of getting to their job.
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Old 10-02-2013, 05:28 PM   #5
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I thought that the Obamacare penalties were supposed to be "unenforceable" by the IRS?

Or did Obama lie about that too?
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Old 10-02-2013, 05:32 PM   #6
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So much bullshit in Clay's post.

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Old 10-02-2013, 05:35 PM   #7
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A man who attempted to sign up for Obamacare online was told that a fine of over $4,000 dollars a year for refusing to take out mandatory health insurance could be taken directly from his bank account, and that his drivers license would be suspended and a federal tax lien placed against his home, according to an entry on the HealthCare.gov Facebook page.
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Old 10-02-2013, 05:40 PM   #8
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Old 10-02-2013, 05:41 PM   #9
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so this is all based on someones comment on a facebook page?
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Old 10-02-2013, 05:41 PM   #10
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I don't understand how your driver's license can be suspended when it is issued by the State and not the Feds?
It's all part of the nationalizing process that socialists, communists and fascists love. So they can control everyone. This reminds me of what the Soviets did to the Kulaks when they implemented collective farming. Here it's collective healthcare and more like white collar thuggery.
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Old 10-02-2013, 05:43 PM   #11
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Quick question looking for a quick answer.

What is it about Obamacare that is making the cost of Insurance inflate?

Google searching has led me to a bunch of articles stating that insurance premiums will go up, but they don't really do a good job of explaining why.
No explanation should be needed. It just pushes the demand curve per supply and demand as explained in basic economics. We've had over 2000 mandates of various kinds over the course of many years added that has eventually led to our health care crisis. Now we have the mother of all mandates. Plus some people have to be subsidized which others will have to pay more.
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Old 10-02-2013, 05:49 PM   #12
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Quick question looking for a quick answer.

What is it about Obamacare that is making the cost of Insurance inflate?

Google searching has led me to a bunch of articles stating that insurance premiums will go up, but they don't really do a good job of explaining why.
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No explanation should be needed. It just pushes the demand curve per supply and demand as explained in basic economics. We've had over 2000 mandates of various kinds over the course of many years added that has eventually led to our health care crisis. Now we have the mother of all mandates. Plus some people have to be subsidized which others will have to pay more.
That and the fact that anytime Government gets involved prices go through the roof. Have you seen the cost of education?
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Old 10-02-2013, 05:54 PM   #13
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That and the fact that anytime Government gets involved prices go through the roof. Have you seen the cost of education?
Education is another example of the same phenomena. Prices kept climbing the more and more financial aid was offered. Now no one works their way through anymore. That was better, plus you get out will little to no debt. When those who really want it work for it they value it more so it attracts more of the right people.

Those professor's pay would be based on what the market would bear and not be what they are today too. No one would pay those guys what they get for just a few courses a week. Now you know why these dudes hate the free-market, love big govt or socialism.

There was a whole study done on this even in the 1980's. Now the colleges push financial aid because it's a gravy train for them.
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Old 10-02-2013, 06:00 PM   #14
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That and the fact that anytime Government gets involved prices go through the roof. Have you seen the cost of education?
Ummm you know 75% of all colleges are privately run right?
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Old 10-02-2013, 06:01 PM   #15
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Ummm you know 75% of all colleges are privately run right?
You do know that students who attend them get govt financial aid right?
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