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99 Percent: the Occupy Wall Street Film

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Has anyone viewed this documentary yet? I just caught it on Pivot and it's interesting.
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Old 10-04-2013, 06:50 AM   #76
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What is the fix? Cut prof pay? Reduce number of options? Consolidate prerequisites reducing staff further? More large lecture classes fewer small section studies? Lower borrowing limits to no more than tuition fees books?

All of these begin to address the issues of too much cost at the university level and too much cost to student. As well it addresses the issue of too many dollars available to students to borrow. Limits could also take into account scholarships by reducing amount you can borrow by some portion of scholarship earned
First, the federal government already limits how much you can borrow from them. All other loans are private bank loans. The government giving you a 5,000 dollar loan isn't causing the price to up.

Increase of government funding into Public universities would be a start.

Increase in Awareness of Community colleges (who also need more money), while advertising the two year degrees that will make money and are in demand (automotive, Heating and Air, welding)

Expand the two year nursing programs, and similar programs (Dental) to accept more people.

Prof. Pay has already been cut. The tenure Prof. is becoming extinct. More and More colleges are making do with underpaid, under qualified adjuncts. These is a bad thing and teachers don't need cuts in their salary any more.

And we have to curve the demand for college. When Harvard only accepts 5.8 percent of those who apply per year (around 35,000), why wouldn't Harvard continue to rise prices?

When you have such high demand, that causes prices to rise, yes?
And if students keep paying, you keep rising, yes?
So ask yourself, at what cost would a student not want to go to Havard?

How do we decrease the demand for College? Do we want too?

Well, we can start by reversing the downhill trend of union membership. Unions typically offer paid apprenticeships, allowing workers to immediately start earning living wage while learning the job and most unions pay for you to go to the union school. (The electrician school is 6 years)

We can also rise the minimum wage. Not everyone should go to college. But everyone will want too if they know they cannot support themselves in a low skill job. When you cannot survive with the pay of our low skills jobs, that is going to increase the demand to attempt to move up. (Evidence: check out conservative comments when talking about the minimum wage - "Go to college")
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I have yet to see these OWS /silver spoon libtard types protesting on campus actually against the colleges themselves for their way overpriced/worthless degrees. Why ?? Because you can't go after the hands that feed and enable your govt dole dependency for the future so as to keep these kids still sitting on their asses like good little anarchists(See Obama-Occidental,Columbia,Harvard and present WH years)

This would be the equivalent of asking Muslims in this country to actually come out publicly and protest against Jihad/Hamas ! Ain't gonna happen.

They are all in bed together for the same cause to achieve the destruction of America orgasm at all cost

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Old 10-04-2013, 06:58 AM   #78
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I have yet to see these OWS /silver spoon libtard types protesting on campus actually against the colleges themselves for their way overpriced/worthless degrees. Why ?? Because you can't go after the hands that feed and enable your govt dole dependency for the future so as to keep these kids still sitting on their asses like good little anarchists(See Obama-Occidental,Columbia,Harvard and present WH years)

This would be the equivalent of asking Muslims in this country to actually come out publicly and protest against Jihad/Hamas ! Ain't gonna happen.

They are all in bed together for the same cause to achieve the destruction of America orgasm at all cost

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Stop getting all your information for Fox News and you wouldn't have this problem of not seeing people protest against colleges.

http://photos.newhavenregister.com/2...uition-hike/#2

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/11/20/cal...tion.protests/

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/articl...ts-2308579.php
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Well, we can start by reversing the downhill trend of union membership. Unions typically offer paid apprenticeships, allowing workers to immediately start earning living wage while learning the job and most unions pay for you to go to the union school. (The electrician school is 6 years)

We can also rise the minimum wage. Not everyone should go to college. But everyone will want too if they know they cannot support themselves in a low skill job. When you cannot survive with the pay of our low skills jobs, that is going to increase the demand to attempt to move up. (Evidence: check out conservative comments when talking about the minimum wage - "Go to college")



You are truly a dumbshit !! You haven't figured out what unions truly are and why their membership has dropped dramatically in the last 35 yrs. Take your Marx Rose Colored glasses off and get truly educated and finally see that it is NOT Capitalism that is the problem why these Limosine Libtard Silver Spoon Entitled Stalinist Students can't find a job !!
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First, the federal government already limits how much you can borrow from them. All other loans are private bank loans. The government giving you a 5,000 dollar loan isn't causing the price to up.

Increase of government funding into Public universities would be a start.

Increase in Awareness of Community colleges (who also need more money), while advertising the two year degrees that will make money and are in demand (automotive, Heating and Air, welding)

Expand the two year nursing programs, and similar programs (Dental) to accept more people.

Prof. Pay has already been cut. The tenure Prof. is becoming extinct. More and More colleges are making do with underpaid, under qualified adjuncts. These is a bad thing and teachers don't need cuts in their salary any more.

And we have to curve the demand for college. When Harvard only accepts 5.8 percent of those who apply per year (around 35,000), why wouldn't Harvard continue to rise prices?

When you have such high demand, that causes prices to rise, yes?
And if students keep paying, you keep rising, yes?
So ask yourself, at what cost would a student not want to go to Havard?

How do we decrease the demand for College? Do we want too?

Well, we can start by reversing the downhill trend of union membership. Unions typically offer paid apprenticeships, allowing workers to immediately start earning living wage while learning the job and most unions pay for you to go to the union school. (The electrician school is 6 years)

We can also rise the minimum wage. Not everyone should go to college. But everyone will want too if they know they cannot support themselves in a low skill job. When you cannot survive with the pay of our low skills jobs, that is going to increase the demand to attempt to move up. (Evidence: check out conservative comments when talking about the minimum wage - "Go to college")
Increase fed $$ to education .... Why. Does that reduce cost

If borrowing too much creates too much debt and students cant do that math then cut the limits further. They can make up difference with scholarships and gettin jobs.

Unions dont create shit. If you want to be a plumber go study plumbing. Same for any trade. Carpentry welding electrician. The demand is there. Most people are to lazy to do the work

How can students not know about jr college.

Students must be responsible enogh to know what they can afford and pay back. Its not everyone elses job to shovel more cash to universities so they can have more degrees like womens studies or the philosophy of urban issues
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You are truly a dumbshit !! You haven't figured out what unions truly are and why their membership has dropped dramatically in the last 35 yrs. Take your Marx Rose Colored glasses off and get truly educated and finally see that it is NOT Capitalism that is the problem why these Limosine Libtard Silver Spoon Entitled Stalinist Students can't find a job !!
Got any more untrue talking points?

And who is complaining about not finding jobs. We are talking about the cost of tuition.

Try to pay attention.
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Stop getting all your information for Fox News and you wouldn't have this problem of not seeing people protest against colleges.

http://photos.newhavenregister.com/2...uition-hike/#2

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/11/20/cal...tion.protests/

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/articl...ts-2308579.php
There you go again with your Alinsky Fox News attackYou DOPE !! I have many other sources besides Fox News who I feel is somewhat getting soft IMO.

Please, like these protests are as epidemic as your astroturfed OWS plants these last 2 years and now these astroturf plants hitting McDonald's up! Like you see these reports in print,TV and the NET on allllllll the other majority Marxist Media/News outlets day after day after day

What you threw out here is like CAIR coming out and mentioning a line or two that we should all get along

Hey, btw you still haven't answered my question "Why would Jesus(who IS GOD btw) would ask a begging man who has been blind for many many years IF he wanted to truly see again ? Seems like an obvious BUT cruel question. Why would Jesus do that Lonesome Alinsky ??
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Increase fed $$ to education .... Why. Does that reduce cost

If borrowing too much creates too much debt and students cant do that math then cut the limits further. They can make up difference with scholarships and gettin jobs.

Unions dont create shit. If you want to be a plumber go study plumbing. Same for any trade. Carpentry welding electrician. The demand is there. Most people are to lazy to do the work

How can students not know about jr college.

Students must be responsible enogh to know what they can afford and pay back. Its not everyone elses job to shovel more cash to universities so they can have more degrees like womens studies or the philosophy of urban issues
Yes, increase federal funding for colleges. We spend more on prisons then we do on colleges.

And every time we decrease funding for schools, that is made up in tuition. Guess what has been going down over the years?

Unions do create stuff, and your comment only proves your ignorance. Like I said, unions have their own schools, which educate their members off the union money, to prepare their members for the job.

Whats not to like about that again?

You do not walk down to a job and get hired as a high line electrician without schooling.

But your last comment just shows me how stupid you are. Another person who has no idea what degrees are popular and thinks everyone is in some worthless degree.

GEt a job... lol. Yea, that minimum wage job that pays 15,000 a year is really going to make a dent in 15,00 a year tuition. lol

What do you think students are mad about? The fact that we cannon work our way through college the way our parents did.
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There you go again with your Alinsky Fox News attackYou DOPE !! I have many other sources besides Fox News who I feel is somewhat getting soft IMO.

Please, like these protests are as epidemic as your astroturfed OWS plants these last 2 years and now these astroturf plants hitting McDonald's up! Like you see these reports in print,TV and the NET on allllllll the other majority Marxist Media/News outlets day after day after day

What you threw out here is like CAIR coming out and mentioning a line or two that we should all get along

Hey, btw you still haven't answered my question "Why would Jesus(who IS GOD btw) would ask a begging man who has been blind for many many years IF he wanted to truly see again ? Seems like an obvious BUT cruel question. Why would Jesus do that Lonesome Alinsky ??
Excellent rebuttal.

You really proved me wrong with those sources you supposedly have. lol
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We are talking about the cost of tuition.
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Yes, most students know exactly how much debt they are taking on.

Why do they do it? Because they don't want to work at Wal-Mart, and non-minimum wage jobs require a college degree.

I don't understand why this is so hard to understand.

You want any type of job that pays above 25,000 a year, you go to college.
Borrow six figures for an opportunity to get a $25K job. You young people are brilliant. No wonder Obama won the youth demographic.
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I have yet to see these OWS /silver spoon libtard types protesting on campus actually against the colleges themselves for their way overpriced/worthless degrees. Why ?? Because you can't go after the hands that feed and enable your govt dole dependency for the future so as to keep these kids still sitting on their asses like good little anarchists(See Obama-Occidental,Columbia,Harvard and present WH years)

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I'm starting to think that loneiguana was born with a lead spoon, full of mercury, in his mouth.
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Borrow six figures for an opportunity to get a $25K job. You young people are brilliant.
This was not uncommon for many people I graduated with in 2007, including myself. Those were the only jobs that were available plus you had to compete with other people that had been laid off and had tons more experience than you.
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This was not uncommon for many people I graduated with in 2007, including myself. Those were the only jobs that were available plus you had to compete with other people that had been laid off and had tons more experience than you.
What was your degree?
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Borrow six figures for an opportunity to get a $25K job. You young people are brilliant. No wonder Obama won the youth demographic.
Still choosing not to get it, eh?

The opportunity to get a job that pays above 25,000 (which is what I originally said, do try to pay attention) is incredibly slim without a college degree now-a-days. Heck, entry secretary positions even wants a degree.

Hence why so many students attend college. Because they don't want to to make only 25,000.

What I find funny is I remember you saying in the minimum wage thread that they should just go to college. But no you are like, you stupid kids paying a lot for college.

Well, which is patty? Do you want them to stay at a job making on 15,000 a year, or should they risk the debt and try for a better job by attending college?
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