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Old 10-03-2013, 12:53 PM  
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The affordable health care act is NOT affordable!

Our own survey ? If you have been on the exchanges to see where you stand on the insurance premiums & deductibles, if you may, please post here the results.
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Old 10-10-2013, 11:40 AM   #61
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I saw this the other night. Samantha Bee is probably my favorite 'correspondent' on the show.

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Old 10-10-2013, 03:41 PM   #62
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Obama administration seeks to reduce cases of cancer in US…by changing the definition of cancer
If you needed another reason to oppose government run health care here’s one to make your blood boil.

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The federal government wants to reduce the number of Americans diagnosed each year with cancer. But not by better preventive care or healthier living. Instead, the government wants to redefinethe term “cancer” so that fewer conditions qualify as a true cancer. What does this mean for ordinary Americans — and should we be concerned?

On July 29, 2013, a working group for the National Cancer Institute (the main government agency for cancer research) published a paper proposing that the term “cancer” be reserved for lesions with a reasonable likelihood of killing the patient if left untreated. Slower growing tumors would be called a different name such as “indolent lesions of epithelial origin” (IDLE). Their justification was that modern medical technology now allows doctors to detect small, slow-growing tumors that likely wouldn’t be fatal. Yet once patients are told they have a cancer, many become frightened and seek unnecessary further tests, chemotherapy, radiation, and/or surgery. By redefining the term “cancer,” the National Cancer Institute hopes to reduce patient anxiety and reduce the risks and expenses associated with supposedly unnecessary medical procedures. In technical terms, the government hopes to reduce “overdiagnosis” and “overtreatment” of cancer.http://poorrichardsnews.com/post/627...s-of-cancer-in
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Old 10-10-2013, 04:20 PM   #63
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Obama administration seeks to reduce cases of cancer in US…by changing the definition of cancer
If you needed another reason to oppose government run health care here’s one to make your blood boil
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The govt isn't running health care, but why would anyone's "blood boil" because of this? Because they want to give a more accurate description of the condition and avoid unnecessary procedures?
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Old 10-10-2013, 04:33 PM   #64
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Old 10-10-2013, 04:57 PM   #65
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The govt isn't running health care, but why would anyone's "blood boil" because of this? Because they want to give a more accurate description of the condition and avoid unnecessary procedures?
Good lord Cosmo. Obama could rape underage kids and you'd still try to find a way to make it seem okay. If you aren't a paid poster, you need help.
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Old 10-10-2013, 05:10 PM   #66
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Good lord Cosmo. Obama could rape underage kids and you'd still try to find a way to make it seem okay. If you aren't a paid poster, you need help.
I don't think Obama really has anything to do with this, but as usual, you don't comment on the topic, just on me.
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Old 10-10-2013, 05:44 PM   #67
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Old 10-10-2013, 07:15 PM   #68
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The govt isn't running health care, but why would anyone's "blood boil" because of this? Because they want to give a more accurate description of the condition and avoid unnecessary procedures?
No, they aren't running it. They are just saying what kind of coverage you have to have and forcing you to buy it. Oh and telling insurance companies how much they have to spend on health care, they have to accept pre-existing, they can't terminate coverage, they have to cap patient out of pocket expenses......

nope, doesn't seem like the Fed Gov is running it at all.
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Old 10-10-2013, 07:18 PM   #69
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The govt isn't running health care, but why would anyone's "blood boil" because of this? Because they want to give a more accurate description of the condition and avoid unnecessary procedures?
Ok, that's ****ing LOL.
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Old 10-10-2013, 08:00 PM   #70
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No, they aren't running it. They are just saying what kind of coverage you have to have and forcing you to buy it. Oh and telling insurance companies how much they have to spend on health care, they have to accept pre-existing, they can't terminate coverage, they have to cap patient out of pocket expenses......

nope, doesn't seem like the Fed Gov is running it at all.
I agree, and it appears you agree with me.
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Old 10-10-2013, 08:07 PM   #71
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Ok, that's ****ing LOL.
I swear we've been over this before. When someone says "runs health care" I take that to mean directing treatment. ACA is much more a regulation of the insurance companies, and the overall effect is that MORE is covered, not less.
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Old 10-10-2013, 08:20 PM   #72
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I believe cosmo is being paid to write this bullshit...he can't possibly believe the crap he is posting.
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Old 10-10-2013, 08:23 PM   #73
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The govt isn't running health care, but why would anyone's "blood boil" because of this? Because they want to give a more accurate description of the condition and avoid unnecessary procedures?
Everyone who has cancer completely disagree's with you. What agency is determining what's necessary and have they found the cure?
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Old 10-10-2013, 08:27 PM   #74
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So far it's not affordable and it's not health care. What the **** is it?

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Everyone who has cancer completely disagree's with you. What agency is determining what's necessary and have they found the cure?
I don't know. What is the answer? What agency is mandating what type of treatment you get for cancer?
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