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Old 10-03-2013, 04:02 PM  
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Should we default on the nation's debts over Obamacare?

Take whatever position you want: that you want Obamacare repealed, that you want a couple parts of it repealed, that you want it to be delayed...

Whatever position you anti-ACAers adopt these days, and answer this question:

Do you believe we should default on our debts because Obamacare is being implemented in its current form?
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Old 10-03-2013, 04:29 PM   #2
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Old 10-03-2013, 04:29 PM   #3
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Old 10-03-2013, 04:32 PM   #4
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i think ted cruz might say yes...

the right wing extremists in the house seem to want to destroy government rather than govern...

it's up to the majority in the house caucus to stand up to the political thugs of the far far right and get on with the nation's business...

sure they might get primaried, but that's not always the kiss of death because tea party candidates are often batshit crazy to the point they can't even win a primary, let alone a general election...

the republican party needs to get out the vote in their primaries and wrest control of their party from the tea party activists...

god forbid that the democratic party becomes the majority party by a huge margin and we suffer one-party rule for generations...
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Old 10-03-2013, 04:36 PM   #5
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No, but Obama appears to think we should.
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Old 10-03-2013, 04:43 PM   #6
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Would democrats really allow that? Both sides are eat up with dumbass right now. But either side can stop default. It just means you give a little. And lets try to becreal....if ObamaCare is all its cracked up to be , its safe. People will demand it be funded, repasses, and implemented. Harry has the power to stop default. What is he and obama afraid of? Show all the cards. Trust the people to demand the right thing. Right now ita a one party, unpopular, and ugly baby
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Old 10-03-2013, 04:51 PM   #7
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If I was Obama, I wouldn't, especially over a program that clearly needs another year of development.
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Old 10-03-2013, 04:51 PM   #8
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Would democrats really allow that? Both sides are eat up with dumbass right now. But either side can stop default. It just means you give a little. And lets try to becreal....if ObamaCare is all its cracked up to be , its safe. People will demand it be funded, repasses, and implemented. Harry has the power to stop default. What is he and obama afraid of? Show all the cards. Trust the people to demand the right thing. Right now ita a one party, unpopular, and ugly baby
but after it's been fully implemented and the glitches have been fixed, it may well become a one party, very popular, and ugly baby...
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Old 10-03-2013, 04:52 PM   #9
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We shouldn't default on our debts over anything. If there's a quicker likely scenario toward us living through the Fall of Rome 2.0 than losing our bulletproof credit rating, I can't think of it.
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Old 10-03-2013, 04:53 PM   #10
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god forbid that the democratic party becomes the majority party by a huge margin and we suffer one-party rule for generations...
haha

Let me reassure you that there's no danger of that happening...
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Old 10-03-2013, 04:55 PM   #11
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but after it's been fully implemented and the glitches have been fixed, it may well become a one party, very popular, and ugly baby...
If its that good what is obama worried about
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Old 10-03-2013, 05:01 PM   #12
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Since we are talking default on the debts that is more of a debate for the debt ceiling. Personally I wouldn't vote to allow a debt increase. Somewhere somehow something has to give. We can't keep operating in a deficit indefinitely.

What I see as a problem is that Reid and Obama are unwilling to negotiate anywhere on anything at anytime. The only real power the Tea Party has is to do it during the times of the CR or Debt Ceiling increase. Like it or not they are representing their constituents or at least they believe they are. That is more than I can say about most Reps in Washington.
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Old 10-03-2013, 05:06 PM   #13
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Old 10-03-2013, 05:21 PM   #14
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Since we are talking default on the debts that is more of a debate for the debt ceiling. Personally I wouldn't vote to allow a debt increase. Somewhere somehow something has to give. We can't keep operating in a deficit indefinitely. .
You think the deficit will be better if we are thrown into a recession as bad or worse than then last one we are still digging out of?
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Old 10-03-2013, 05:25 PM   #15
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Why does the left keep talking about default?
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