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Old 10-03-2013, 04:02 PM  
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Should we default on the nation's debts over Obamacare?

Take whatever position you want: that you want Obamacare repealed, that you want a couple parts of it repealed, that you want it to be delayed...

Whatever position you anti-ACAers adopt these days, and answer this question:

Do you believe we should default on our debts because Obamacare is being implemented in its current form?
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Old 10-03-2013, 05:25 PM   #16
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You think the deficit will be better if we are thrown into a recession as bad or worse than then last one we are still digging out of?
Gonna hurt. Hope we dont do that to protect a bad program. But looks probable Obama would rather we test the bottom with default rather than no default and give a year to fix obamacare or kill it.

Poor folks and govt employees better check to see who has their back. Contractors and non essentials will go first.
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Old 10-03-2013, 05:38 PM   #17
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If its that good what is obama worried about
from what i read, it looks like president o'bama is worried that the repubs will find some way to derail it...

he wants the exchanges etc. to work so huge numbers of americans will fall in love with o'bama care and it will never be repealed, like soc sec and medicare...

once established and working, o'bamacare will win the argument for many americans, millions of them...

so he's afraid to give in to any attempt to derail it, i guess you could say...
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Old 10-03-2013, 05:40 PM   #18
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We shouldn't default on our debts over anything. If there's a quicker likely scenario toward us living through the Fall of Rome 2.0 than losing our bulletproof credit rating, I can't think of it.
This.

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Old 10-03-2013, 05:41 PM   #19
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from what i read, it looks like president o'bama is worried that the repubs will find some way to derail it...

he wants the exchanges etc. to work so huge numbers of americans will fall in love with o'bama care and it will never be repealed, like soc sec and medicare...

once established and working, o'bamacare will win the argument for many americans, millions of them...

so he's afraid to give in to any attempt to derail it, i guess you could say...

Better to default then. At least all those who fall out in another huge ressession will get healthcare. You can see the logic.
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Old 10-03-2013, 05:41 PM   #20
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You think the deficit will be better if we are thrown into a recession as bad or worse than then last one we are still digging out of?
what's this?

are you suggesting that reducing the economic output of the country would somehow reduce federal revenues?

have you run this by taco yet?
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Old 10-03-2013, 05:45 PM   #21
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If its that good what is obama worried about
Probably that some asshole ideologues in congress will throw a tantrum and hold the country hostage.
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Old 10-03-2013, 05:46 PM   #22
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Better to default then. At least all those who fall out in another huge ressession will get healthcare. You can see the logic.
actually no i don't see the logic...

another huge recession is not going to help anybody...

and people are beginning to get health insurance through o'bamacare, so if the ted cruz faction of the house repubs wants a debt ceiling debacle they better get with it, time's running out...
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Old 10-03-2013, 05:49 PM   #23
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Probably that some asshole ideologues in congress will throw a tantrum and hold the country hostage.
One side or the other it seems. Either one can stop it. Neither seems much interested. Asshole ideologues are that way. What did Harry say ? We will not give ? Obama said he will not negotiate?

Once these people say never its hard for their ego to step back. Hardcore stuff. And it does not look like a game. Shit will get real.
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Old 10-03-2013, 05:52 PM   #24
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actually no i don't see the logic...

another huge recession is not going to help anybody...

and people are beginning to get health insurance through o'bamacare, so if the ted cruz faction of the house repubs wants a debt ceiling debacle they better get with it, time's running out...
But you do see that is the tradeoff. Obama/reid seem to be willing to go over the cliff to avoid any changes to ObamaCare. Zero room to move at this point.
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Obama is having a hard time pinning this on the R 's. Its an R and a D thing. And an Obama issue. Making dumbshit statements about farmers and small business and loans and shit....Stupid

President Barack Obama repeatedly complained on Thursday that the public took a skeptical attitude toward his decision to shutdown the government rather than agree to the GOP’s Obamacare reform proposals.

According to the president, too many Americans believe “both sides are just squabbling” and “neither side is behaving properly.”

“The only thing that’s keeping the government shut down … basic research from starting back up, and farmers and small businesses getting their loans, is that Speaker John Boehner won’t even let the [2014 budget] bill get a yes or no vote, because he doesn’t want to anger the extremists in his party,” Obama said during a speech given to a construction company.

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Old 10-03-2013, 06:02 PM   #26
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But you do see that is the tradeoff. Obama/reid seem to be willing to go over the cliff to avoid any changes to ObamaCare. Zero room to move at this point.
sure there's a tradeoff, of sorts...

but i really think o'bama and reid will let the repub cruzy faction go over the cliff before they allow o'bamacare to be derailed...

personally, i like the no-negotiation strategy wrt the shutdown and the debt ceiling...

i don't think any faction should be able to diddle around with the functioning of the government or the credit rating as a negotiating ploy...

let them vote and let's see how many repubs are willing to negotiate without holding a gun to the head of the country...

yes, yes i know this sounds like it is straight from msnbc, but i felt that way before the pres announced his no negotation strategy...
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Old 10-03-2013, 06:33 PM   #27
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personally, i like the no-negotiation strategy wrt the shutdown and the debt ceiling...

i don't think any faction should be able to diddle around with the functioning of the government or the credit rating as a negotiating ploy...
Why give in to someone who is willing to burn his own house down if they don't get what they want?

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I'm not saying it's morally right or wrong, but does it make the child because of it? Think about that for a second.
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Old 10-03-2013, 06:42 PM   #28
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I know Obama is on record tying Obamacare to the debt limit. Someone want to link where the republicans have tied them together?
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personally, i like the no-negotiation strategy wrt the shutdown and the debt ceiling...

i don't think any faction should be able to diddle around with the functioning of the government or the credit rating as a negotiating ploy...
Nobody cared when it was Tip Oniell doing it.
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