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Old 10-03-2013, 04:02 PM  
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Should we default on the nation's debts over Obamacare?

Take whatever position you want: that you want Obamacare repealed, that you want a couple parts of it repealed, that you want it to be delayed...

Whatever position you anti-ACAers adopt these days, and answer this question:

Do you believe we should default on our debts because Obamacare is being implemented in its current form?
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Old 10-03-2013, 07:08 PM   #31
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sure there's a tradeoff, of sorts...

but i really think o'bama and reid will let the repub cruzy faction go over the cliff before they allow o'bamacare to be derailed...

personally, i like the no-negotiation strategy wrt the shutdown and the debt ceiling...

i don't think any faction should be able to diddle around with the functioning of the government or the credit rating as a negotiating ploy...

let them vote and let's see how many repubs are willing to negotiate without holding a gun to the head of the country...

yes, yes i know this sounds like it is straight from msnbc, but i felt that way before the pres announced his no negotation strategy...
If Harry and barry let it crash they will never sell the. "Radical crazy right" to anyone. They hold the keys. There are not enough Cruzoids to pass or block a damn thing. This wart is on Obamas ass if we default.
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Old 10-03-2013, 07:23 PM   #32
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I wonder if Obama has yet to realize history will pin this on him not Congress or one party.
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:12 PM   #33
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Why give in to someone who is willing to burn his own house down if they don't get what they want?

Give a mouse a cookie........
So you don't think Republicans should give in to him then?
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:15 PM   #34
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Why give in to someone who is willing to burn his own house down if they don't get what they want?

Give a mouse a cookie........
The house is upside down in value/debt, flooded basement, walls are crumbling, and has a huge population of cockroaches and rats living in it.


Burn baby, burn.
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:22 PM   #35
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The house is upside down in value/debt, flooded basement, walls are crumbling, and has a huge population of cockroaches and rats living in it.

Burn baby, burn.
This is pretty well where I'm at anymore.

Fewer and fewer ****s are being given and bad decisions have consequences. Let the bitch burn and we'll sort through the ashes.
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:24 PM   #36
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This is pretty well where I'm at anymore.

Fewer and fewer ****s are being given and bad decisions have consequences. Let the bitch burn and we'll sort through the ashes.
It's sad. All of this shit can be fixed if they just give the power to the local governments.
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:26 PM   #37
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This is pretty well where I'm at anymore.

Fewer and fewer ****s are being given and bad decisions have consequences. Let the bitch burn and we'll sort through the ashes.
And you're under the impression that defaulting would make it easier to rebuild? The stupidity on display here is astounding.
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:29 PM   #38
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And you're under the impression that defaulting would make it easier to rebuild? The stupidity on display here is astounding.
This country is divided more and more every day. Do you see this getting any better?
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:33 PM   #39
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And you're under the impression that defaulting would make it easier to rebuild? The stupidity on display here is astounding.
Is the stuipidy more one one side than the other ? For ****s sake there is no less or more stupid than harry reid. If we go to default will Harry take the punch? Obama? Boehner ? No. Not one of them and they choose to not stop it. Are you gonna defend obama and reid? Really?
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:33 PM   #40
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If default wasn't a problem with respect to the debt ceiling, why is it a problem now?
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:39 PM   #41
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We shouldn't default on our debts over anything. If there's a quicker likely scenario toward us living through the Fall of Rome 2.0 than losing our bulletproof credit rating, I can't think of it.
This. Defaulting on the debt shouldn't be considered by any lawmaker. It is equivalent to a suicide threat in a family argument. It is the tactic of a sociopath.
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:42 PM   #42
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So you don't think Republicans should give in to him then?
I think Republicans should work to pass laws that they favor without putting a gun to the head to the economy of the US.
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:42 PM   #43
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This. Defaulting on the debt shouldn't be considered by any lawmaker. It is equivalent to a suicide threat in a family argument. It is the tactic of a sociopath.
Neither should spending money you don't have
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:44 PM   #44
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Is the stuipidy more one one side than the other ? For ****s sake there is no less or more stupid than harry reid. If we go to default will Harry take the punch? Obama? Boehner ? No. Not one of them and they choose to not stop it. Are you gonna defend obama and reid? Really?
I'm going to blame the person that puts the gun to the head and pulls the trigger, not the person that didn't cave in to their threats and demands to prevent them from doing it.
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I think Republicans should work to pass laws that they favor without putting a gun to the head to the economy of the US.
And democrats
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