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Old 10-03-2013, 04:02 PM  
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Should we default on the nation's debts over Obamacare?

Take whatever position you want: that you want Obamacare repealed, that you want a couple parts of it repealed, that you want it to be delayed...

Whatever position you anti-ACAers adopt these days, and answer this question:

Do you believe we should default on our debts because Obamacare is being implemented in its current form?
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:46 PM   #46
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This country is divided more and more every day. Do you see this getting any better?
I don't see what that has to do with paying bills that are due. I don't see what that has to do with defaulting on debts. There is no situation in which that would be a useful event.
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:46 PM   #47
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I think Republicans should work to pass laws that they favor without putting a gun to the head to the economy of the US.
Why should they follow Obama's lead?
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:47 PM   #48
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Neither should spending money you don't have
It's part of the system of both parties. We can work to reduce it in an orderly fashion. We can't change things overnight. If we default, we won't reclaim our current status in the world in my lifetime.
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:47 PM   #49
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I think Republicans should work to pass laws that they favor without putting a gun to the head to the economy of the US.
That seems to be what they're doing. Meanwhile, the President and Harry Reid are threatening to bring on Armageddon, or something really bad.
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:47 PM   #50
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Sounds like the whackos have backed down their demands substantially. Probably old news, but last I heard they were willing to deal if obamacare were optional for individuals. Kinda defeats the purpose of a mandate, and would likely doom the program.

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Old 10-03-2013, 08:48 PM   #51
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And democrats
What exactly did they do?
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:51 PM   #52
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I don't see what that has to do with paying bills that are due. I don't see what that has to do with defaulting on debts. There is no situation in which that would be a useful event.
You don't see the correlation between the Fed closure and division of the country?


Besides, there shouldn't be any debt to begin with. Thanks a lot George, Barrack, and the entire Fed Government.
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:52 PM   #53
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Why should they follow Obama's lead?
Because the law was passed by constitutional means. The Republicans made the 2012 elections a referendum on Obama care. Obama won. Republicans didn't take the Senate.

This is our system.

If America hates the implementation of Obama care, they can elect leaders to repeal or significantly modify it. This is our system.

Putting a gun to the head of the US economy isn't our system.
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:53 PM   #54
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Is the stuipidy more one one side than the other ? For ****s sake there is no less or more stupid than harry reid. If we go to default will Harry take the punch? Obama? Boehner ? No. Not one of them and they choose to not stop it. Are you gonna defend obama and reid? Really?
Hell yes. Ds want to pay the bills. Rs want demands met before allowing the bills to be paid. These are debts for spending that Congress approved. And the Rs are not allowing them to be paid. It is not complicated.
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Because the law was passed by constitutional means. The Republicans made the 2012 elections a referendum on Obama care. Obama won. Republicans didn't take the house.

This is our system.

If America hates the implementation of Obama care, they can elect leaders to repeal or significantly modify it. This is our system.

Putting a gun to the head of the US economy isn't our system.
Republicans did take the House. They have as much right to take a hard line on this as the President does.
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Republicans did take the House. They have as much right to take a hard line on this as the President does.
Typo. Should have said Senate.
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Because the law was passed by constitutional means. The Republicans made the 2012 elections a referendum on Obama care. Obama won. Republicans didn't take the Senate.

This is our system.

If America hates the implementation of Obama care, they can elect leaders to repeal or significantly modify it. This is our system.

Putting a gun to the head of the US economy isn't our system.

Putting a gun to our heads to force us to pay for something we dont want or need? Obamas America.
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It is within the rules that all of our beloved politicians bend.


Reconciliation?
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Putting a gun to our heads to force us to pay for something we dont want or need? Obamas America.
So if your wife buys a piece of jewelry that you disagree you would take one of your children and hold a knife to his throat? Awesome.
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