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Old 10-04-2013, 11:46 AM  
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***Official St. Louis Cardinals 2013 Postseason Thread***

The Season thread has started crapping out. Post about the Birds here.
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Old 11-03-2013, 10:41 AM   #3646
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Blowing a 17 point lead at home in the fourth quarter, including giving up a conversion on 4th and Goal from the 15 and missing a 24 yard FG
Losing three straight WS games to get knocked out by the team with the biggest asshole fans this side of the Raiders
Losing your #1 targeted BB recruit, who also happens to be a legacy

Yeah, it was a shitty ****ing week.
I think my old man slipped into a bit of depression. It wasn't pretty.
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Old 11-04-2013, 07:44 AM   #3647
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I can say he's going to be better than Kozma because only one person, ever, in the history of the franchise has been worse over a 500 AB season.
If Wong continues like that he won't make 500 AB.
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Old 11-04-2013, 07:46 AM   #3648
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This article says Cardinals could trade Lynn or Miller for Starling Castro. Big headcase, Colby Rasmus II

http://network.yardbarker.com/mlb/ar...tstop/14959121
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Old 11-04-2013, 08:06 AM   #3649
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This article says Cardinals could trade Lynn or Miller for Starling Castro. Big headcase, Colby Rasmus II

http://network.yardbarker.com/mlb/ar...tstop/14959121
Lynn. He's got Cub written all over him.
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Lynn. He's got Cub written all over him.
But Starling Castro?
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But Starling Castro?
He's better than Kozma. And I'd trade Lynnderella for a six pack of Old Style at this point.
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Old 11-04-2013, 08:42 AM   #3652
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But Starling Castro?
I don't know what the **** happened to Castro last year, but he was a three WAR player the two years before that and he'll be 24 on opening day.

Replacing Kozma with 2012 Castro offensively would be (literally) like replacing 2013 Jon Jay with Andrew McCutchen.
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Old 11-04-2013, 08:44 AM   #3653
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A year removed from 200 hits iirc. I'd take him.

Rather have tulo but Castro would work
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I don't know what the **** happened to Castro last year, but he was a three WAR player the two years before that and he'll be 24 on opening day.

Replacing Kozma with 2012 Castro offensively would be (literally) like replacing 2013 Jon Jay with Andrew McCutchen.
Playing for the shittiest team in professional sports happened to him.
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Old 11-04-2013, 08:46 AM   #3655
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I'd rather move for Castro than profar
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Old 11-04-2013, 08:52 AM   #3656
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I'd rather move for Castro than profar
The problem with Castro is the contract.

If you make the move for Profar and he busts, you're out the prospects.

If you make a move for Castro and he busts, you're out the prospect(s) plus the $50 million he's due over the next 6 years. Now at $5 million/WAR on the market, getting 10 WAR over 6 years should be pretty doable for a guy entering his mid-20s, but it's not a given.

I'm with you in that I'd far prefer give up Lynn for Castro than Miller+ for Profar, but there's a lot more risk in Castro.

That said, man is that kid talented. And the Cardinals hitting approach could be absolutely perfect for him; getting him to cut down on those Ks and use his speed a little more. Unless he can get his K rate down into the 11-12% range, he's not going to be a truly dangerous offensive weapon.
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Old 11-04-2013, 09:00 AM   #3657
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FWIW, many new projections are valuing WAR at closer to $7 million than $5.
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Old 11-04-2013, 09:21 AM   #3658
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The problem with Castro is the contract.

If you make the move for Profar and he busts, you're out the prospects.

If you make a move for Castro and he busts, you're out the prospect(s) plus the $50 million he's due over the next 6 years. Now at $5 million/WAR on the market, getting 10 WAR over 6 years should be pretty doable for a guy entering his mid-20s, but it's not a given.

I'm with you in that I'd far prefer give up Lynn for Castro than Miller+ for Profar, but there's a lot more risk in Castro.

That said, man is that kid talented. And the Cardinals hitting approach could be absolutely perfect for him; getting him to cut down on those Ks and use his speed a little more. Unless he can get his K rate down into the 11-12% range, he's not going to be a truly dangerous offensive weapon.
I think te upside with Castro is higher too. I'm not sure but it seems A) the rangers overvalue prospects B) profar is elevated because of overall lack of talent at that position league wide.

I'm on the Tulo bandwagon, if you can add a core player of his level, I'm all for it.

That said, Castro is a really nice piece.
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The Cards should move up a league and join the AL. Kinda like what Houston did (painful as it was this year). The AL dominates interleague and the ASG. I think the past decade, the AL averages about an 85-77 record (projected to a 162 game season) mark against the AAAA league.
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Looks like Cards made a QO to Beltran and have already announced that Rosenthal will be the closer for next year (Rosie has publicly stated he wants to return as a starter) while Motte returns from surgery.
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