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Old 10-07-2013, 11:52 AM  
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Illegal Immigrants to be granted licenses to practice law in California

Illegal immigrants allowed to practice law in California
By Noreen O'Donnell

Sat Oct 5, 2013 8:16pm EDT

(Reuters) - Illegal immigrants can be licensed to practice law in California under one of eight bills expanding immigrant rights that were signed by Governor Jerry Brown on Saturday.

The California Supreme Court, which finalizes requests of applicants to be licensed as a lawyer in California, is now authorized to approve qualified applicants regardless of their immigration status.

Other new laws prohibit law enforcement officials from detaining immigrants based on federal government instructions except in cases of serious crimes or convictions, and make it illegal for employers to retaliate against workers on the basis of their citizenship.

"While Washington waffles on immigration, California's forging ahead," Brown said in a statement. "I'm not waiting."

The new laws, including the one letting undocumented immigrants become lawyers, could set a precedent for the nation. They are part of a push to increase immigrant rights in the strongly Democratic state. About 38 percent of California's population of 38 million is of Hispanic descent.

On Thursday, Brown signed a law making undocumented immigrants eligible to apply for drivers licenses. California, which will join at least nine other states when the law takes effect in 2015, expects 1.4 million people to apply for licenses over three years.

A study by the University of Southern California has found that more than 2.6 million people, most of them Latinos, lack legal status in the state.

Assemblyman Luis Alejo, a Democrat from Watsonville, said the new laws illustrate the change in California over the last 20 years.

"The bills that were signed by the governor today show that California is bucking the trend that we've seen in other states over the last few years - Arizona, Georgia, Mississippi, all states that have enacted legislation that really restricted or attacked immigrants in those states," Alejo said.

California is doing what it can at the state level in the absence of immigration reform by the U.S. Congress, he said.

Earlier this year, the Democratic-led U.S. Senate approved a path to citizenship for millions of immigrants living in the United States illegally, but the Republican-controlled House of Representatives is unlikely to follow suit.

The California law that allows illegal immigrants to practice law grew out of a case of an undocumented Mexican immigrant, Sergio Garcia, who was brought to the United States as a baby and later graduated from a California law school. He has received the support of the State Bar of California and the state attorney general.

Critics of Garcia's bid to gain admission to the California bar included the U.S. Justice Department, which opposed it in a brief filed with the state's Supreme Court last year.

While Garcia may now be admitted to the California bar, two other Mexican immigrants one in New York and another in Florida are pursuing similar cases.

(Editing by Tom Brown and Mohammad Zargham)

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...99500420131006

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Old 10-07-2013, 02:39 PM   #31
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Post some links to verify your claims. Slinging the race card at people for no reason is really no better than posting racial slurs themselves. You have to stop that.
I'm not searching for that shit.

I can list the posters that have been racist pricks towards me. Otter, Livesteam, frazbob, bootlegged, and shitsprayer.

Notice, I don't call patty, baby lee, brock, blaise, or others I disagree with on a regular basis racists because they aren't.
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Old 10-07-2013, 02:41 PM   #32
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Racism aside, this is a really terrible idea.

We have enough ethical problems with attorneys defrauding their clients without them being at risk of deportation or changing their name at a whim or jumping back across the border.

I can see how all the local lawyers got all weepy and were thinking, "Oh this poor guy, he was only brought over as a baby, and then he did all this hard work and now he can't earn a living" and so they think they are doing him a swell favor. But where are these people going to be when the guy with 30 akas has defrauded people across 10 states and is not even here legally?
I don't think it is a good idea either without a path to citizenship (registration, tracking, realistic goals).

It's more amazing to me that there are still states that don't require a JD to take the bar exam.
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Old 10-07-2013, 02:43 PM   #33
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I'm not searching for that shit.

I can list the posters that have been racist pricks towards me. Otter, Livesteam, frazbob, bootlegged, and shitsprayer.

Notice, I don't call patty, baby lee, brock, blaise, or others I disagree with on a regular basis racists because they aren't.
Because it never happened. Which is just the opposite of you admitting to running around with queers & hanging out with queers at the QUEER BAR

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Oh, and gay bars are fun. Teh gayzzzzzz know how to party.
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Old 10-07-2013, 02:44 PM   #34
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Because it never happened. Which is just the opposite of you admitting to running around with queers & hanging out with queers at the QUEER BAR

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Oh, and gay bars are fun. Teh gayzzzzzz know how to party.
Having gay friends and socializing with them doesn't make you gay.

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Old 10-07-2013, 02:46 PM   #35
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Old 10-07-2013, 02:47 PM   #36
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Old 10-07-2013, 02:52 PM   #37
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You sure do like to admit to things. gay,troll,drug abuser, doing drugs around your child= child abuser.
Otter has been a racist towards you. I call Bullshit
I'd love to as well. He's a lying sack of shit. I'll leave for a year if he can pull up me being racist toward him. Sound fair?
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Old 10-07-2013, 02:56 PM   #38
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I'm not searching for that shit.

I can list the posters that have been racist pricks towards me. Otter, Livesteam, frazbob, bootlegged, and shitsprayer.

Notice, I don't call patty, baby lee, brock, blaise, or others I disagree with on a regular basis racists because they aren't.
AFAIC, you have 2 options.

1. Stop dropping the race card.
2. When you post accusations, back it up.

If you don't want to do one of those, then there's really no reason for you to be here trolling.
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Old 10-07-2013, 03:08 PM   #39
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I'd love to as well. He's a lying sack of shit. I'll leave for a year if he can pull up me being racist toward him. Sound fair?
Works for me. Hell, I'll speak on behalf of most everyone. Works for all of us.
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Old 10-07-2013, 03:09 PM   #40
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AFAIC, you have 2 options.

1. Stop dropping the race card.
2. When you post accusations, back it up.

If you don't want to do one of those, then there's really no reason for you to be here trolling.
Is this a new rule for banning?

You're being a tad ridiculous here. Being a virulent racist isn't against the rules but calling out posters for their past posting history towards me is?
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Old 10-07-2013, 03:14 PM   #42
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I don't think it is a good idea either without a path to citizenship (registration, tracking, realistic goals).

It's more amazing to me that there are still states that don't require a JD to take the bar exam.
NY and CA are used by foreign countries to act as a proxy for their own lack of having bar examination processes.

I took the NY Bar and there were a couple of guys in front of me from S. Korea and it was clear that they couldn't speak a word of english, beause they did the multiple choice and when we got to the essays, they just sat there and didn't write anything.

In another weird quirk, I think MN allows you to practice law without taking a bar exam if you graduated from a MN law school (kind of the opposite phenomenon).
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NY and CA are used by foreign countries to act as a proxy for their own lack of having bar examination processes.

I took the NY Bar and there were a couple of guys in front of me from S. Korea and it was clear that they couldn't speak a word of english, beause they did the multiple choice and when we got to the essays, they just sat there and didn't write anything.

In another weird quirk, I think MN allows you to practice law without taking a bar exam if you graduated from a MN law school (kind of the opposite phenomenon).
I did not know that. Makes a little more sense now.
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