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Old 10-07-2013, 11:52 AM  
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Illegal Immigrants to be granted licenses to practice law in California

Illegal immigrants allowed to practice law in California
By Noreen O'Donnell

Sat Oct 5, 2013 8:16pm EDT

(Reuters) - Illegal immigrants can be licensed to practice law in California under one of eight bills expanding immigrant rights that were signed by Governor Jerry Brown on Saturday.

The California Supreme Court, which finalizes requests of applicants to be licensed as a lawyer in California, is now authorized to approve qualified applicants regardless of their immigration status.

Other new laws prohibit law enforcement officials from detaining immigrants based on federal government instructions except in cases of serious crimes or convictions, and make it illegal for employers to retaliate against workers on the basis of their citizenship.

"While Washington waffles on immigration, California's forging ahead," Brown said in a statement. "I'm not waiting."

The new laws, including the one letting undocumented immigrants become lawyers, could set a precedent for the nation. They are part of a push to increase immigrant rights in the strongly Democratic state. About 38 percent of California's population of 38 million is of Hispanic descent.

On Thursday, Brown signed a law making undocumented immigrants eligible to apply for drivers licenses. California, which will join at least nine other states when the law takes effect in 2015, expects 1.4 million people to apply for licenses over three years.

A study by the University of Southern California has found that more than 2.6 million people, most of them Latinos, lack legal status in the state.

Assemblyman Luis Alejo, a Democrat from Watsonville, said the new laws illustrate the change in California over the last 20 years.

"The bills that were signed by the governor today show that California is bucking the trend that we've seen in other states over the last few years - Arizona, Georgia, Mississippi, all states that have enacted legislation that really restricted or attacked immigrants in those states," Alejo said.

California is doing what it can at the state level in the absence of immigration reform by the U.S. Congress, he said.

Earlier this year, the Democratic-led U.S. Senate approved a path to citizenship for millions of immigrants living in the United States illegally, but the Republican-controlled House of Representatives is unlikely to follow suit.

The California law that allows illegal immigrants to practice law grew out of a case of an undocumented Mexican immigrant, Sergio Garcia, who was brought to the United States as a baby and later graduated from a California law school. He has received the support of the State Bar of California and the state attorney general.

Critics of Garcia's bid to gain admission to the California bar included the U.S. Justice Department, which opposed it in a brief filed with the state's Supreme Court last year.

While Garcia may now be admitted to the California bar, two other Mexican immigrants one in New York and another in Florida are pursuing similar cases.

(Editing by Tom Brown and Mohammad Zargham)

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...99500420131006

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Old 10-07-2013, 06:00 PM   #76
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So, what is the downside to this anyway?
The only thing I can think of is that it's ridiculous to have an attorney present, who is representing one of the clients in a case, who isn't even legally allowed to be there. To be fair I'm not sure that that is what the bills are saying. I could see maybe using it to protect a lawyer when the other side has lots of money but is losing a case, so that the court case isn't held up with accusations of illegal residency.
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Old 10-07-2013, 06:01 PM   #77
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well, if they pass the U.S. bar exam......??
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Old 10-07-2013, 06:02 PM   #78
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The only thing I can think of is that it's ridiculous to have an attorney present, who is representing one of the clients in a case, who isn't even legally allowed to be there. To be fair I'm not sure that that is what the bills are saying. I could see maybe using it to protect a lawyer when the other side has lots of money but is losing a case, so that the court case isn't held up with accusations of illegal residency.
Just looking at this from the leftist POV, this could reduce the cost of legal representation. And that would be a good thing right?
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The only thing I can think of is that it's ridiculous to have an attorney present, who is representing one of the clients in a case, who isn't even legally allowed to be there. To be fair I'm not sure that that is what the bills are saying. I could see maybe using it to protect a lawyer when the other side has lots of money but is losing a case, so that the court case isn't held up with accusations of illegal residency.
For starters yeah, win your case have your opponent deported.

But for people having trouble with this, why not doctors, nuclear engineers, or the CIA?
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Old 10-07-2013, 06:03 PM   #80
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Come on homes, you guys....you know. White people. Non brown people...

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The funniest racial thing I've seen lately is my brother in law, who comes from a very distinctive Hispanic heritage, moaning and ovulating all over FaceBook about immigration issues because he's a staunch Tea Partier. I did drop a comment on one of his posts to the tune of, "Really? You're against immigration? Really?" His side of the family is tejano.
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I originally read the title as illegals were going to start making license plates in California, which I thought was a pretty good idea. This is idiotic.
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For starters yeah, win your case have your opponent deported.

But for people having trouble with this, why not doctors, nuclear engineers, or the CIA?
CIA would present serious clearance issues...maybe nuke boys too.
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CIA would present serious clearance issues...maybe nuke boys too.
Yeah, but you have to undergo a background check for the bar too, for similar reasons, even though it may not be quite as thorough.
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Just looking at this from the leftist POV, this could reduce the cost of legal representation. And that would be a good thing right?
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For starters yeah, win your case have your opponent deported.

But for people having trouble with this, why not doctors, nuclear engineers, or the CIA?
My personal opinion is that immigrants should be allowed legal resident alien status if they can be gainfully employed within 90 days of entering the country. They can verify this by paying payroll taxes. Give them temporary work visas when they cross the border, they have 90 days to get an employer to validate employment, they can stay as long as they pay taxes. Legal resident alien status.
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Yeah, but you have to undergo a background check for the bar too, for similar reasons, even though it may not be quite as thorough.
True...
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Yeah, but you have to undergo a background check for the bar too, for similar reasons, even though it may not be quite as thorough.
Cant be much based on some of the Lawyers we see.
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...California, which will join at least nine other states when the law takes effect in 2015, expects 1.4 million people to apply for licenses over three years...
OMG. When I first skimmed the article I thought it was saying that California expected 1.4 million to apply for licenses to practice law. For a minute I thought every drywall hanger on the West Coast had a freaking law degree.
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OMG. When I first skimmed the article I thought it was saying that California expected 1.4 million to apply for licenses to practice law. For a minute I thought every drywall hanger on the West Coast had a freaking law degree.

From what I hear there may be a lot of drywall hangers with a law degree,,,,,
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