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Old 10-07-2013, 01:03 PM  
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60 minutes: Disability Fraud in the US

For anyone who missed this piece last night on 60 minutes, pretty good overview of the problem that somewhere between 25-40% of disability claims in this country are just straight-up fraud.

Senator Tom Coburn of Oklahoma and his staff should be commended for bringing this important waste of taxpayer funds to our attention.




I have personally seen this in my pratice too, and it usually makes me want to vomit. We will get someone in court who has just gone on a meth lab/burglary spree and the judge will ask them what they will do for employment "I'm getting my disability next month". Way more frequently than it should happen.
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Old 10-07-2013, 02:21 PM   #16
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Like I already said, I consider the legal industry this has created to be the first target. It's not like Conn (irony) is the only lawyer getting rich off this.

Lawyering people into disability benefits shouldn't be a cash cow.
Clients pay their attorneys out of their back benefits. Isn't limiting a persons freedom to contract against free market principles?
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Old 10-07-2013, 02:26 PM   #17
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Clients pay their attorneys out of their back benefits. Isn't limiting a persons freedom to contract against free market principles?
Are you a lawyer?
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Old 10-07-2013, 02:29 PM   #18
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Are you a lawyer?
What difference would that make?
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Old 10-07-2013, 02:29 PM   #19
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Coburn, btw, doesn't know what the f he's talking about. The "any job in the economy you can perform standard" only applies to workers under age 50. The demographic pig in the python know as the Baby Boomers (worst generation ever) and the economic downturn is largely to blame for increasing disability rolls.
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What difference would that make?
It would certainly influence a persons opinion on the subject.
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Old 10-07-2013, 02:31 PM   #21
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Btw, Judge Marilyn Zahm, one of the outspoken critics, shouldn't be casting aspersions about unjustified enrichment off the disability system. That **** can go **** herself with a flaming AIDS dildo.

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It is a bit surprising that Judge Zahm would be so out-spoken, considering the minimum amount of work she does and the large amount of money she is paid. According to Social Security records Judge Zahm issued only 26 decisions for the 9 months between September 2010 and June 2011. At a salary of $167,000.00 per year, she earned $6,423.00 per decision. An average hearing lasts about 30 minutes; so, her hourly wage for that period was about $12,846.00. That is a nice salary for so little work.
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It would certainly influence a persons opinion on the subject.
You mean, knowing WTF you're talking about? Sure.
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Old 10-07-2013, 02:34 PM   #23
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Btw, Judge Marilyn Zahm, one of the outspoken critics, shouldn't be casting aspersions about unjustified enrichment off the disability system. That **** can go **** herself with a flaming AIDS dildo.



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True, I'm sure she did no work outside the courtroom.
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You mean, knowing WTF you're talking about? Sure.
Or possibly part of the problem...
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Also, this is a pretty good example of fraud and abuse.

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Btw, Judge Marilyn Zahm, one of the outspoken critics, shouldn't be casting aspersions about unjustified enrichment off the disability system. That **** can go **** herself with a flaming AIDS dildo.



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Get that shit out of here. That's just as lazy the other way as the 60 Minutes piece.
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Or possibly part of the problem...
Oh, possibly.

You rigorous standards for culpability would serve the legal system well!!
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Old 10-07-2013, 02:39 PM   #28
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True, I'm sure she did no work outside the courtroom.
I don't know. Sounds worthy of 60 Minutes to investigate.

I have friends that work as staff attorneys for the SSA. It's a cake job (as long as your have a high tolerance for bureaucratic BS).
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I have friends that work as staff attorneys for the SSA. It's a cake job.
I don't doubt it. But I'm sure that she did some work outside the courtroom which makes that statement misleading.
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