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Old 10-07-2013, 03:57 PM  
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Romo/Rivers/Cutler..career losers or franchise QBs?

Whats your take on these guys? Would these guys be 5-0 on the Chiefs.....or do they make too many mistakes and turnovers in critical situations? Sure, they put up great "box scores" , but so did Jeff George......
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Old 10-07-2013, 06:22 PM   #61
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He's had a couple come from behind/last moment wins, FWIW.
He's been the best 4th quarter qb since 2006
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Old 10-07-2013, 06:22 PM   #62
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He's had a couple come from behind/last moment wins, FWIW.
He's actually had several that I can recall. And he wouldn't be the best QB in the league statistically in the 4th if he was that big of a choker late, one would think.
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Old 10-07-2013, 06:24 PM   #63
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The term "franchise QB" is waaay overused.

There are only about 5 in the league and those 3 aren't any of them.
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Old 10-07-2013, 06:25 PM   #64
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The term "franchise QB" is waaay overused.

There are only about 5 in the league and those 3 aren't any of them.
Franchise qb isn't overused


"Elite" is overused
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Old 10-07-2013, 06:28 PM   #65
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Franchise qb isn't overused


"Elite" is overused
I see them as almost the same.

For example, if you take Shaub and put him on Atlanta, is Atlanta much worse if at all?

If you replace Cutler with Shaub is Chicago much worse if at all?

Is Shaub franchise, no.
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Old 10-07-2013, 06:30 PM   #66
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Old 10-07-2013, 06:31 PM   #67
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I see them as almost the same.

For example, if you take Shaub and put him on Atlanta, is Atlanta much worse if at all?

If you replace Cutler with Shaub is Chicago much worse if at all?

Is Shaub franchise, no.
I don't think they're necessarily the same.

I don't think Eli, or Big Ben, or flacco are elite. But they're franchise qbs.

I think there are 3 elite qbs in the league right now. Bree's, manning and Rodgers. I think Brady is still close, but he hasn't really played well this year.
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Old 10-07-2013, 06:32 PM   #68
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Is Fish also a good RT because we're 5-0?

Is Robinson a good cover corner because we're 5-0?...
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Old 10-07-2013, 06:33 PM   #69
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I don't think they're necessarily the same.

I don't think Eli, or Big Ben, or flacco are elite. But they're franchise qbs.

I think there are 3 elite qbs in the league right now. Bree's, manning and Rodgers. I think Brady is still close, but he hasn't really played well this year.
Yeah but Brady is playing with 10 guys off the street. They'd probably have 2 wins at best with many of the other QBs listed in this thread.
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Is Fish also a good RT because we're 5-0?

Is Robinson a good cover corner because we're 5-0?...

When are we supposed to buy in then? It's no accident winning 25 out of 30 games in this league.

It's not a fluke ass 13-3 followed by a turd.
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Old 10-07-2013, 06:34 PM   #71
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Old 10-07-2013, 06:35 PM   #72
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I like romo. Hes just as smart as alex or Peyton.
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Old 10-07-2013, 06:36 PM   #73
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All franchise. He made one poor decision against the donks. Peyton made one to. Not all qbs are guaranteed to win a super bowl. Look at marino.

If he were on the chiefs many of you would have romo tattoos.
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I can see how Romo probably isn't quite as bad as his reputation... but at the same time it's how he's going to be remembered. They've laid some real eggs in the playoffs... and then multiple times they've bombed in week 17 where a win would get them in. At least a couple of those games were truly NFC East playoff games where the loser went home.

At least Dan Marino went to and won several playoff games. Romo's not a terrible QB, but he has to break through at some point. It's weird sometimes how we rip on guys who win and then make excuses for QB's who don't.
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He's been the best 4th quarter qb since 2006
Eh. He chokes in just about any pressure situation. He may be good in the 4th quarter when Cowboys have a comfortable lead, but in pressure situations, he's one of the worst.
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