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Old 10-08-2013, 11:59 AM  
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COLUMBIA, S.C. -- South Carolina defensive end Jadeveon Clowney did not play against Kentucky on Saturday, and coach Steve Spurrier was not entirely pleased about it.

Clowney came to the coaches before the game and said that bruised ribs that kept him from practice Thursday were too sore for him to play.

So the 6-foot-6, 274-pound All-American watched the Gamecocks' 35-28 win against Kentucky from the sidelines, chatting with teammates as South Carolina lost a large lead for the third straight game.

If Clowney "wants to play, we will welcome him to come play for the team if he wants," Spurrier said after the game. "But if he doesn't want to play, he doesn't have to play. Simple as that."

On Sunday, Spurrier reclassified Clowney's injury as a muscle strain. Spurrier said the frustration he expressed a day earlier was a result of how late Clowney waited to tell his coaches he wouldn't play.

"It was just we didn't know he wasn't playing until right before the game," Spurrier said. "That is always a little frustrating. Usually the trainer or doctor comes and tells you this guy is out, and that did not happen last night. But on the other side if a player is in pain and can't play, I don't want him to play. None of us do."

Asked about Clowney's commitment to the Gamecocks, Spurrier said, "You'll have to ask him that."

Spurrier's kept Clowney on a short leash with the media since early August, letting him speak only after games. Spurrier said that would change this week to give Clowney a chance to explain his injury.

Defensive coordinator Lorenzo Ward said Saturday he thought Clowney would play during the team's walk-through and was surprised when he learned he wouldn't be playing.

"He said he was hurting, but I thought he was going to play," Ward said. "Love to have JD out there, but we've got to put 11 guys on the field."

Spurrier said Clowney remains questionable for the No. 14 Gamecocks' game at Arkansas on Saturday.

"We will have to wait through the week to see if he will be able to play," Spurrier said. "Obviously he doesn't have a broken leg or anything that would keep him out two to three weeks but if he has a muscle strain around the rib area, we will have to see how long it keeps him out."

Clowney missed practice Thursday with the injury, but Ward said then it was likely he would be in the lineup Saturday night. Clowney was announced with the starters but came out without his pads when the game began.

He has been bothered by injuries and ailments throughout the season. He was ill before games with North Carolina and UCF, and has also been dealing with bone spurs in his right foot, a problem he's had since high school.

Clowney has yet to break out this season as opponents have largely played away from his side. The reigning Southeastern Conference defensive player of the year has just 12 tackles and two sacks.

"He may not be able to play next week. I don't know," Spurrier said Saturday after the game. "But we're not going to worry about it, I can assure you of that."
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Old 10-08-2013, 01:31 PM   #61
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Why?
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Why should a team override my aversion to risking an injury that could cost me multiple millions?
You've just answered your own question.

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And it's easy for you and I to sit in our computer chairs and say "I would totally do it, even if it could cost me millions."
If money is the main reason why Clowney is playing football, I predict he'll have a shitty career.

You play (and coach, for that matter) football for one reason only:

Passion for the game.

If that's not your driving factor, then you won't last long, in any league.

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But if the heat is genuinely on, I'm guessing your rock-ribbed ideals might bend a bit.
And you're clearly clueless, as usual.

Run off now and make another shitty draft.
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Old 10-08-2013, 01:32 PM   #62
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Hell no, go for the money. That part is understood and respected, envied by the team.
But while you're on the team, you play. Like you said, half assing is weak and points to character.
I have no idea what's going on with Clowney btw, talking in the hypothetical here.
Then we agree... I'm not in favor of the way he's going about it (if that is, in fact, what's happening here), but I understand the motivation. Honestly, it's still probably smarter than risking an injury, though.
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Old 10-08-2013, 01:33 PM   #63
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Old 10-08-2013, 01:33 PM   #64
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You and I differ fundamentally on this.
I won't do the "did you ever play team sports?" thing but I'll say quitting is just something nobody does and it points to character flaws.
Yep. Also, if the logic is that he has already guaranteed his draft position then that logic is flawed because he has done no such thing. Teams don't invest millions of dollars and their franchise on a player for which they have serious character questions about. He will be asked the questions I wrote earlier and he will need to have a good answer.

And the difference between the 1st pick and the 10th pick this past year was about $10 million. So if his behavior, (which is termed logical at the moment by some because getting hurt could cost him money), costs him 7-10 spots in the draft and millions of dollars, where is the logic?
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Old 10-08-2013, 01:33 PM   #65
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You're not getting a $30,000,000 insurance policy.
He won't earn $30 million over the course of his rookie contract but regardless, he can certainly purchase a policy worth millions.
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Old 10-08-2013, 01:33 PM   #66
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Have you ever played football on any level?



You've just answered your own question.



If money is the main reason why Clowney is playing football, I predict he'll have a shitty career.

You play (and coach, for that matter) football for one reason only:

Passion for the game.

If that's not your driving factor, then you won't last long, in any league.



And you're clearly clueless, as usual.

Run off now and make another shitty draft.
Grow the **** up. You are such a child.
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Old 10-08-2013, 01:34 PM   #67
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No excuse for quitting on coach Spurrier. He's never up and left a team before...
So quitting on a team as a player equals leaving a job at the end of the season for another job?

Huh?
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Old 10-08-2013, 01:34 PM   #68
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Have you ever played football on any level?



You've just answered your own question.



If money is the main reason why Clowney is playing football, I predict he'll have a shitty career.

You play (and coach, for that matter) football for one reason only:

Passion for the game.

If that's not your driving factor, then you won't last long, in any league.



And you're clearly clueless, as usual.

Run off now and make another shitty draft.
Seek help.
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Grow the **** up. You are such a child.
You're a ****ing moron.

You are absolutely clueless and I'm absolutely certain that you never played football.

Go **** yourself, "Saul".
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He won't earn $30 million over the course of his rookie contract but regardless, he can certainly purchase a policy worth millions.
He will with endorsements and everything else. Fisher just got over $22,000,000 guaranteed. Clowney MIGHT be able to get a policy for $3,000,000, and it would run him in the hundreds of thousands in premiums.
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Yep. Also, if the logic is that he has already guaranteed his draft position then that logic is flawed because he has done no such thing. Teams don't invest millions of dollars and their franchise on a player for which they have serious character questions about. He will be asked the questions I wrote earlier and he will need to have a good answer.

And the difference between the 1st pick and the 10th pick this past year was about $10 million. So if his behavior, (which is termed logical at the moment by some because getting hurt could cost him money), costs him 7-10 spots in the draft and millions of dollars, where is the logic?
Good points about the questions. He will almost certainly be asked them now.
They will probably also talk to Spurrier.
There may be satisfactory answers, I don't know. A talent like that is very hard to ignore but character counts to some...
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This isn't adversity, though.

It's pretty clear he just doesn't want to play for free.

You can hardly blame him.

What happens when he decides he doesn't want to play for what he's being paid in the NFL, Einstein?
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He will with endorsements and everything else. Fisher just got over $22,000,000 guaranteed. Clowney MIGHT be able to get a policy for $3,000,000, and it would run him in the hundreds of thousands in premiums.
This renders your point moot and wrong, of course:

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/colle...cy-source-says

USC wide receiver Marqise Lee has secured a $10 million total disability insurance policy, a source told ESPN.com. Lee joins Louisville quarterback Teddy Bridgewater ($10 million) and South Carolina defensive end Jadeveon Clowney ($5 million) as high-profile college players who have insurance policies this season. In March, Heisman Trophy winner Johnny Manziel told ESPN.com that he also would take out a policy for the 2013 season.
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It's one of my many aliases.

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