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Old 10-08-2013, 12:59 PM  
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Jadeveon Clowney

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COLUMBIA, S.C. -- South Carolina defensive end Jadeveon Clowney did not play against Kentucky on Saturday, and coach Steve Spurrier was not entirely pleased about it.

Clowney came to the coaches before the game and said that bruised ribs that kept him from practice Thursday were too sore for him to play.

So the 6-foot-6, 274-pound All-American watched the Gamecocks' 35-28 win against Kentucky from the sidelines, chatting with teammates as South Carolina lost a large lead for the third straight game.

If Clowney "wants to play, we will welcome him to come play for the team if he wants," Spurrier said after the game. "But if he doesn't want to play, he doesn't have to play. Simple as that."

On Sunday, Spurrier reclassified Clowney's injury as a muscle strain. Spurrier said the frustration he expressed a day earlier was a result of how late Clowney waited to tell his coaches he wouldn't play.

"It was just we didn't know he wasn't playing until right before the game," Spurrier said. "That is always a little frustrating. Usually the trainer or doctor comes and tells you this guy is out, and that did not happen last night. But on the other side if a player is in pain and can't play, I don't want him to play. None of us do."

Asked about Clowney's commitment to the Gamecocks, Spurrier said, "You'll have to ask him that."

Spurrier's kept Clowney on a short leash with the media since early August, letting him speak only after games. Spurrier said that would change this week to give Clowney a chance to explain his injury.

Defensive coordinator Lorenzo Ward said Saturday he thought Clowney would play during the team's walk-through and was surprised when he learned he wouldn't be playing.

"He said he was hurting, but I thought he was going to play," Ward said. "Love to have JD out there, but we've got to put 11 guys on the field."

Spurrier said Clowney remains questionable for the No. 14 Gamecocks' game at Arkansas on Saturday.

"We will have to wait through the week to see if he will be able to play," Spurrier said. "Obviously he doesn't have a broken leg or anything that would keep him out two to three weeks but if he has a muscle strain around the rib area, we will have to see how long it keeps him out."

Clowney missed practice Thursday with the injury, but Ward said then it was likely he would be in the lineup Saturday night. Clowney was announced with the starters but came out without his pads when the game began.

He has been bothered by injuries and ailments throughout the season. He was ill before games with North Carolina and UCF, and has also been dealing with bone spurs in his right foot, a problem he's had since high school.

Clowney has yet to break out this season as opponents have largely played away from his side. The reigning Southeastern Conference defensive player of the year has just 12 tackles and two sacks.

"He may not be able to play next week. I don't know," Spurrier said Saturday after the game. "But we're not going to worry about it, I can assure you of that."
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Old 10-08-2013, 02:41 PM   #76
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This renders your point moot and wrong, of course:

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USC wide receiver Marqise Lee has secured a $10 million total disability insurance policy, a source told ESPN.com. Lee joins Louisville quarterback Teddy Bridgewater ($10 million) and South Carolina defensive end Jadeveon Clowney ($5 million) as high-profile college players who have insurance policies this season. In March, Heisman Trophy winner Johnny Manziel told ESPN.com that he also would take out a policy for the 2013 season.
The point is moot because $5,000,000 somehow = $30,000,000?
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Old 10-08-2013, 02:41 PM   #77
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What happens when he decides he doesn't want to play for what he's being paid in the NFL, Einstein?
This!

Like I said he would be a perfect fit for the Faders. Or the Giants-that way he can be on a team of quitters.
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Old 10-08-2013, 02:42 PM   #78
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This isn't adversity, though.

It's pretty clear he just doesn't want to play for free.

You can hardly blame him.
Heard they even rise the tickets price to $16 more.
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Old 10-08-2013, 02:43 PM   #79
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This renders your point moot and wrong, of course:

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/colle...cy-source-says

USC wide receiver Marqise Lee has secured a $10 million total disability insurance policy, a source told ESPN.com. Lee joins Louisville quarterback Teddy Bridgewater ($10 million) and South Carolina defensive end Jadeveon Clowney ($5 million) as high-profile college players who have insurance policies this season. In March, Heisman Trophy winner Johnny Manziel told ESPN.com that he also would take out a policy for the 2013 season.
Wonder where some of those guys get the premium $ for that?
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Old 10-08-2013, 02:43 PM   #80
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The point is moot because $5,000,000 somehow = $30,000,000?
You said he'd be "lucky" to get $3 million. He purchased a $5 million dollar policy. Others purchased $10 million dollar policies.

You were talking out of your ass, as usual.
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Old 10-08-2013, 02:44 PM   #81
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This!

Like I said he would be a perfect fit for the Faders. Or the Giants-that way he can be on a team of quitters.
Stupid move.

Trying to "save his body" probably cost him $$$ on draft day...
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Wonder where some of those guys get the premium $ for that?
They sign autographs.
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Colon is 0.7 WAR or 5M in value. He makes 500k. Getting pretty close, and since he's producing war each of the next 4 years of club control, he's fair value for Upton straight up. More than fair actually.
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Wonder where some of those guys get the premium $ for that?
From what I've heard, it's about $20k per million, per year. These policies are allowed by the NCAA but I'm unsure who's allowed to pay for them.
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Stupid move.

Trying to "save his body" probably cost him $$$ on draft day...
Oh, come on! Everyone should do it!
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Were people not having this EXACT SAME discussion with Julius Peppers in 2002?

He was a DE phenom who had motivation concerns and quit on his teammates?

Potential cancer, he was.

Then the Panthers drafted him #2 overall.
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You said he'd be "lucky" to get $3 million. He purchased a $5 million dollar policy. Others purchased $10 million dollar policies.

You were talking out of your ass, as usual.
I said he might get 3 million...and that was pretty ****ing close now wasn't it. The other players who got more aren't DEs banging heads in the SEC. Playing QB in the AAC isn't quite the same from an actuarial standpoint.
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Colon is 0.7 WAR or 5M in value. He makes 500k. Getting pretty close, and since he's producing war each of the next 4 years of club control, he's fair value for Upton straight up. More than fair actually.
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From what I've heard, it's about $20k per million, per year. These policies are allowed by the NCAA but I'm unsure who's allowed to pay for them.
Hmmmmmm....
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Were people not having this EXACT SAME discussion with Julius Peppers in 2002?

He was a DE phenom who had motivation concerns and quit on his teammates?

Potential cancer, he was.

Then the Panthers drafted him #2 overall.
I haven't said he won't go high. I don't know.
But IF character questions pop up it COULD cost home some$
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I said he might get 3 million...and that was pretty ****ing close now wasn't it. The other players who got more aren't DEs banging heads in the SEC. Playing QB in the AAC isn't quite the same from an actuarial standpoint.
No, it's not close, when he could have purchased a policy for as much as $10 million.
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No, Clowney is truly different. He's in Andrew Luck, Calvin Johnson territory.

His ticket is punched. Almost every other player conceivably in the Top Ten needs to keep playing to ensure that's their value.

There's no question with Clowney.
They both played their butts off their final college season. From a talent standpoint he might be in their category, but from a heart standpoint he has a ways to go.
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