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Old 10-11-2013, 02:59 AM  
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Jason Collins, Openly Gay and Still Unsigned

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“That’s how I still consider myself,” he said Wednesday in his first interview since N.B.A. training camps opened last month without his participation. “Sure, I’ve picked up another title. But I feel that’s always who I’m going to be — that person who sets a good example, who represents the sport and is an asset to my team and a role model for other players.”

The question Collins has to ponder is why he has not been signed as a free agent. Is it because he is at best a marginal player with modest career statistics (3.6 points and 3.8 rebounds a game) nearing the end of his career, one who would cost more than a younger player based on the league’s collectively bargained pay scale? Or is there something more sinister at work related to the new role he would play?

Collins did not dismiss the latter notion or address it.

“You don’t want to speculate — I don’t go there,” he said while picking at a bowl of greens in a cafe in the Brentwood section of Los Angeles, near where he lives. But while conceding he would be at the lower end of a team’s depth chart at this stage of his career, he admitted being perplexed because, he said, “I feel there are players in the league right now that, quite frankly, I’m better than.”

As teams firmed up their rosters in late summer, Collins’s agent, Arn Tellem, received inquiries from at least three teams in the market for a reserve big man who understood positional defense. One of them, the Detroit Pistons, settled on Josh Harrellson, a third-year player who cost the Pistons more than $500,000 less than the nearly $1.4 million Collins would have earned — the minimum salary for a player with his experience.

Several league executives said the number of teams interested in Collins had shrunk because of new penalties for teams exceeding the luxury tax threshold.

Brooklyn was thought to be a potential landing site because Collins spent roughly half his career with the Nets when they played in New Jersey, where he was a trusted teammate of Jason Kidd, now the team’s coach. But with the Nets’ soaring payroll, Collins would have cost the team almost four times his salary in taxes.

Collins acknowledged that signing younger players would be more prudent financially, but he asked how experience could be discounted in such a competitive sport.

“In my mind it shouldn’t be about that,” he said, referring to minimizing costs. “The N.B.A. is for the best players, not for the most affordable players. There isn’t a professional athlete that doesn’t want to play 12, 13 years. What I did when I was younger was look up to the guys like Dikembe Mutombo and Alonzo Mourning who played over a decade. What did they do to last that long? A lot of it is keeping your body in shape, keeping your mind sharp, staying hungry. You should always want guys around like that to set that example, in my mind.”


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Old 10-11-2013, 07:30 AM   #16
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Old 10-11-2013, 07:38 AM   #17
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Old guy at the end of NBA bench is replaced by young guy with upside. Shocking.

If we want to test the willingness of NBA franchises to have openly gay players on their team, we need a better test case.
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Old 10-11-2013, 07:44 AM   #18
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This.

The Jason Collins story holds a little more weight just because Rhodes not being signed anywhere is just impossible to figure out.
IMO, Kerry Rhodes says a lot about the NFL, but it doesn't tell us anything about the NBA or the Jason Collins situation.
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Old 10-11-2013, 07:57 AM   #19
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I was lead to believe the best thing about being gay was always being a free agent...
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Old 10-11-2013, 08:02 AM   #20
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Old 10-11-2013, 08:33 AM   #21
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It's because he not that great a player.
but...it's a better story if it's because he's a gay.
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Old 10-11-2013, 08:35 AM   #22
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No team wants that media circus around them...can't say I blame them esp. for such a mediocre player.
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but...it's a better story if it's because he's a gay.
So either way it's because he sucks...
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Old 10-11-2013, 08:37 AM   #24
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So either way it's because he sucks...


yep, pretty much.
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Terrell Owens - Openly straight and still unsigned by an NFL team.
also like 43 years old and a team cancer.

what's the deal w/Kerry Rhodes?? He likes greasy man-meat??
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Do I give a shit?

Let's see.......

Nope
me neither, but it's still laughable that people care so much that we're discussing it here??
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also like 43 years old and a team cancer.
He's making an indirect point, not literally complaining that a straight guy can't get a job in the NFL.
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He's making an indirect point, not literally complaining that a straight guy can't get a job in the NFL.
the indirect point being that two overpaid and over-the-hill athletes are unemployed?
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