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Joseph Atwill Claims Ancient Confession Found: 'We Invented Jesus Christ'

Ancient Confession Found: 'We Invented Jesus Christ'

Biblical scholars will be appearing at the 'Covert Messiah' Conference at Conway Hall in London on the 19th of October to present this controversial discovery to the British public.

London (PRWEB UK) 8 October 2013

American Biblical scholar Joseph Atwill will be appearing before the British public for the first time in London on the 19th of October to present a controversial new discovery: ancient confessions recently uncovered now prove, according to Atwill, that the New Testament was written by first-century Roman aristocrats and that they fabricated the entire story of Jesus Christ. His presentation will be part of a one-day symposium entitled "Covert Messiah" at Conway Hall in Holborn (full details can be found at http://www.covertmessiah.com).

Although to many scholars his theory seems outlandish, and is sure to upset some believers, Atwill regards his evidence as conclusive and is confident its acceptance is only a matter of time. "I present my work with some ambivalence, as I do not want to directly cause Christians any harm," he acknowledges, "but this is important for our culture. Alert citizens need to know the truth about our past so we can understand how and why governments create false histories and false gods. They often do it to obtain a social order that is against the best interests of the common people."

Atwill asserts that Christianity did not really begin as a religion, but a sophisticated government project, a kind of propaganda exercise used to pacify the subjects of the Roman Empire. "Jewish sects in Palestine at the time, who were waiting for a prophesied warrior Messiah, were a constant source of violent insurrection during the first century," he explains. "When the Romans had exhausted conventional means of quashing rebellion, they switched to psychological warfare. They surmised that the way to stop the spread of zealous Jewish missionary activity was to create a competing belief system. That's when the 'peaceful' Messiah story was invented. Instead of inspiring warfare, this Messiah urged turn-the-other-cheek pacifism and encouraged Jews to 'give onto Caesar' and pay their taxes to Rome."

Was Jesus based on a real person from history? "The short answer is no," Atwill insists, "in fact he may be the only fictional character in literature whose entire life story can be traced to other sources. Once those sources are all laid bare, there's simply nothing left."

Atwill's most intriguing discovery came to him while he was studying "Wars of the Jews" by Josephus [the only surviving first-person historical account of first-century Judea] alongside the New Testament. "I started to notice a sequence of parallels between the two texts," he recounts. "Although it's been recognised by Christian scholars for centuries that the prophesies of Jesus appear to be fulfilled by what Josephus wrote about in the First Jewish-Roman war, I was seeing dozens more. What seems to have eluded many scholars is that the sequence of events and locations of Jesus ministry are more or less the same as the sequence of events and locations of the military campaign of [Emperor] Titus Flavius as described by Josephus. This is clear evidence of a deliberately constructed pattern. The biography of Jesus is actually constructed, tip to stern, on prior stories, but especially on the biography of a Roman Caesar."

How could this go unnoticed in the most scrutinised books of all time? "Many of the parallels are conceptual or poetic, so they aren't all immediately obvious. After all, the authors did not want the average believer to see what they were doing, but they did want the alert reader to see it. An educated Roman in the ruling class would probably have recognised the literary game being played." Atwill maintains he can demonstrate that "the Roman Caesars left us a kind of puzzle literature that was meant to be solved by future generations, and the solution to that puzzle is 'We invented Jesus Christ, and we're proud of it.'"

Is this the beginning of the end of Christianity? "Probably not," grants Atwill, "but what my work has done is give permission to many of those ready to leave the religion to make a clean break. We've got the evidence now to show exactly where the story of Jesus came from. Although Christianity can be a comfort to some, it can also be very damaging and repressive, an insidious form of mind control that has led to blind acceptance of serfdom, poverty, and war throughout history. To this day, especially in the United States, it is used to create support for war in the Middle East."

Atwill encourages skeptics to challenge him at Conway Hall, where after the presentations there is likely to be a lively Q&A session. Joining Mr.Atwill will be fellow scholar Kenneth Humphreys, author of the book "Jesus Never Existed."

Further information can be found at http://www.covertmessiah.com.

About Joseph Atwill: Joseph Atwill is the author of the best-selling book "Caesar's Messiah" and its upcoming sequel "The Single Strand."



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Old 10-11-2013, 01:14 PM   #16
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Don't you finding a little odd that many "gods" had virgin births on December 25th? Many of them thousands of years before Christianity? Then again I dont expect Christians to read anything besides there favorite book.
Christmas is an invented holiday.
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Old 10-11-2013, 01:15 PM   #17
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There is really no question among serious scholars that he was a historical person.
On the surface these guys appear to be serious scholars. From the Covert Messiah website:

JOSEPH ATWILL

author of "Caesar's Messiah"

VISIT JOSEPH ATWILL'S BLOG

As a youth in Japan Atwill attended a Jesuit military academy, where most of his school day was spent studying Greek, Latin, and the Bible. In later years, he continued studying hundreds of books on the origins of Christianity, including the Dead Sea Scrolls. Recently he wrote a paper with Robert Eisenman on the dating of the Scrolls. Atwill's book Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy to Invent Jesus was published by Ulysses Press in 2006, becoming a best-selling work of religious history in the US in 2007. Its German translation has also achieved No. 1 Best Seller status.



KENNETH HUMPHREYS

author of "Jesus Never Existed"

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Humpreys holds a Master's degree from the University of Essex in history and social sciences, a post-graduate pedagogic certificate from the University of Leicester, and a higher national certificate in business studies. He taught for many years in the UK and abroad. Religion, and in particular the claims of Christianity, have been a life-long interest. His book Jesus Never Existed, published in 2005 by Iconoclast Press, currently ships to 30 countries. His website receives more than a million visitors a year. He is now fully occupied as a writer, radio broadcaster, and public speaker, and campaigns energetically against the tide of resurgent superstition and unreason.
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On the surface these guys appear to be serious scholars. From the Covert Messiah website:

JOSEPH ATWILL

author of "Caesar's Messiah"

VISIT JOSEPH ATWILL'S BLOG

As a youth in Japan Atwill attended a Jesuit military academy, where most of his school day was spent studying Greek, Latin, and the Bible. In later years, he continued studying hundreds of books on the origins of Christianity, including the Dead Sea Scrolls. Recently he wrote a paper with Robert Eisenman on the dating of the Scrolls. Atwill's book Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy to Invent Jesus was published by Ulysses Press in 2006, becoming a best-selling work of religious history in the US in 2007. Its German translation has also achieved No. 1 Best Seller status.



KENNETH HUMPHREYS

author of "Jesus Never Existed"

VISIT KENNETH HUMPREYS' WEBSITE

Humpreys holds a Master's degree from the University of Essex in history and social sciences, a post-graduate pedagogic certificate from the University of Leicester, and a higher national certificate in business studies. He taught for many years in the UK and abroad. Religion, and in particular the claims of Christianity, have been a life-long interest. His book Jesus Never Existed, published in 2005 by Iconoclast Press, currently ships to 30 countries. His website receives more than a million visitors a year. He is now fully occupied as a writer, radio broadcaster, and public speaker, and campaigns energetically against the tide of resurgent superstition and unreason.
With a name like the Covert Messiah, what could possibly go wrong? Your usual trolling effort is less than solid.
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With a name like the Covert Messiah, what could possibly go wrong? Your usual trolling effort is less than solid.
Your mind is as closed as always. No big deal. You lack the capacity to be objective in any discussion involving your own religious beliefs. You've proved that over and over again.
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Your mind is as closed as always. No big deal. You lack the capacity to be objective in any discussion involving your own religious beliefs. You've proved that over and over again.
I don't need to believe this guy, he has an agenda as do you. Did I miss something? Still waiting for Buddha to come to life from a statue.
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Your mind is as closed as always. No big deal. You lack the capacity to be objective in any discussion involving your own religious beliefs. You've proved that over and over again.
Don't worry, he read the book. It happened. It even had red letters when god spoke.
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There is really no question among serious scholars that he was a historical person.
No, the historical existence of Jesus is very much in question.
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I don't need to believe this guy, he has an agenda as do you. Did I miss something? Still waiting for Buddha to come to life from a statue.
As long as that six armed one doesn't come to life. Vishnu? That one would freak me out...
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No, the historical existence of Jesus is very much in question.
Only from Internet trolls that hate GOD.
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I don't need to believe this guy, he has an agenda as do you. Did I miss something? Still waiting for Buddha to come to life from a statue.
Cognitive dissonance strikes again. You're the poster boy for self imposed ignorance regarding anything religious or spiritual.
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Cognitive dissonance strikes again. You're the poster boy for self imposed ignorance regarding anything religious or spiritual.
GO say 3 hail buddhas, strike the cognitive dissonance bell and try again.
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Only from Internet trolls that hate GOD.
One shred of physical evidence of your god besides the bible and you win. Something that is real or happened NOT in your book that can only be attributed to something of a higher power.
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GO say 3 hail buddhas, strike the cognitive dissonance bell and try again.
Run and hide, reality is intruding into your fantasy life again. Just stick your fingers in your ears and yell, "La la la" as long and as hard as you can. Whatever works for you.
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Only from Internet trolls that hate GOD.
No, not at all. Actual historical references to Jesus Christ are essentially non existent outside of Christian sources or sources that stemmed directly from Christian sources.

And if Jesus did exist, he would have definitely been dark skinned. The Jesus pictures hanging in most American homes are just blatantly wrong and show a need for people to identify with a Jesus similar in appearance to them.
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