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Old 10-16-2013, 10:05 AM  
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Andy blames himself, not Alex, for Chiefs' sputtering offense

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- When you're 6-0 and coming off a 2-14 season, there really shouldn't be any complaining.

There can't be a football fan or scout or executive anywhere on the planet who could have forecast the amazing turnaround general manager John Dorsey and coach Andy Reid have conducted with the Chiefs -- certainly not to the extent of a 6-0 start.

But -- and isn't there always a but? -- there is one small area of concern that even Reid himself continues to address: a sluggish offense.

The Chiefs are 25th in the NFL in offense, chugging along at just 326 yards per game, a remarkably low figure for a team unbeaten this far into the season.

No one is more aware of the offense's struggles than Reid. The offense is his baby.

"Listen, I'm never going to make excuses," Reid said Monday. "That's not how we roll here. But the reality of it is we're a little young, but we have to get better.

"I see some phases we're getting better at. But I've got to do a better job of getting these guys in the right position to succeed. We've all got a little piece of the pie to get things right. We're learning on the fly, but we're going to get better."

The Chiefs likely will have to. Fans in this area have seen this script before. They've seen the Chiefs' teams of the 1990s soar through the regular season on the strength of their overpowering defenses and elite special teams.

Then those fans saw the same teams misfire in the postseason, mainly because the offense couldn't step up and contribute when it had to.

To avoid revisiting that script, the Chiefs must get more production out of quarterback Alex Smith, whose numbers keep sinking.

Smith is 26th in the league in passing yards at just 221.7 per game. He's also 20th in the league with a passer rating of 79.8.

But if you're looking for Reid to point any fingers toward Smith, you'll have a long wait.

Reid knows what kind of team he has. He knows, outside of Jamaal Charles and at times Dwayne Bowe, he doesn't have an explosive offense.

Reid also knows you can win in this league simply by not messing up, and letting the opponent beat itself. The Chiefs are No. 1 in the league in turnover ratio at plus-12, and don't have the appearance of a team that will beat itself anytime soon.

"Not turning the ball over is very important to us," Reid said, "especially when you have a solid defense like we have and the kicking game we have, both from our punter and our kicker."

In that respect, Smith is giving Reid all he needs, even if the offense has that familiar conservative look of the '90s. After all, there is a fine line between wanting more offensive production, and opening the offense up so much that more turnovers occur. Reid isn't likely to stand for that.

"You want to always start off by protecting the ball," Reid said. "There's no fine line there for me. ...

"Alex is doing that. And we need to point out the way Alex continues to manage this offense."

And that is the key in Reid's mind: He simply wants Smith to manage the game, which also includes managing the different personalities in the huddle.

"We've got a guy at quarterback, this kid, he's a stud," Reid said. "The things he does for this team is unbelievable. He's making people around him better. He takes the blame for things -- that's what good leaders do.

"At the same time, he's able to teach and explain to other guys with a clear head. Those are valuable things for us as coaches to see. I'm very pleased with the job (Smith) is doing."

In Reid's mind, let the other quarterbacks around the league possess the pretty passing numbers; Reid will take the ultimate one that counts. That is, for now, 6-0.

Still, Reid also has been around long enough to know that his offense will have to improve as the season wears on, even if it's just incrementally.

And that will be up to Reid himself as the play-caller and architect of the offense, something Reid has mentioned almost every week.

"I think we have done some good things, but we have plenty to work on," Reid said. "I don't think I've done a very good job of putting guys in position to make plays. That has been obvious at times. I have to do a better job."



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Old 10-16-2013, 10:04 PM   #181
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But, none of the offense all season besides Charles has held their own with ANYONE.
I have no idea how the WRs have performed, since I haven't been to Arrowhead this year and Smith never involves them.

I do know a great deal about what 5 yards from the line of scrimmage looks like, though.
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Old 10-16-2013, 10:07 PM   #182
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I have no idea how the WRs have performed, since I haven't been to Arrowhead this year and Smith never involves them.

I do know a great deal about what 5 yards from the line of scrimmage looks like, though.
understood. And if you have been paying attention this week, I have been BLASTING Alex Smith. His performance the past two weeks is unacceptable.

But, I have no problem saying the offense has been bad period, while also noting that perhaps improved qb play could fix a lot of ills.
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Old 10-16-2013, 10:18 PM   #188
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There is no chance the Broncos will put up more on the Chiefs than they did the Jags. Welker hates physical play. Peyton Manning hates physical play, Eric Decker hates physical play.

They have almost no chance.

That will be a 20-13 ish type game at Denver. I could see KC blowing them completely out in KC.

Peyton is great, but once you rattle him, he has a hard time overcoming it.

Check the playoff game where he threw three picks to Ty Law if you want to understand what I mean. Also check his super bowl against the Saints. They started rattling him early, and he never got out of it.
I hope so. It still doesn't temper my desire to see the offense run a bit smoother and score a bit more on average to have a bit more wiggle room, and feel a bit more confident.
I still think it works out that we end up with a split and the home team gets the W, so I hope we keep taking care of business because the remaining schedule for both teams I think slightly favors us being able to secure winning the division- but there's a lot of unknown variable to say that edge may be slim at best.
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Old 10-16-2013, 10:23 PM   #189
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Yeah, 13-3 on the back of an awesome defense isn't enough for poor little Tony.
2006 Cowboys: 4th in points scored, 20th in points allowed.
2007 Cowboys: 2nd in points scored, 13th in points allowed.
2008 Cowboys: 18th in points scored, 20th in points allowed.

2009 Cowboys: 14th in points scored, 2nd in points allowed.
2010 Cowboys: 7th in points scored, 31st in points allowed.
2011 Cowboys: 15th in points scored, 16th in points allowed.
2012 Cowboys: 15th in points scored, 24th in points allowed.
2013 Cowboys: 2nd in points scored, 21st in points allowed.


Of the 7 seasons that Romo has been a starter, Dallas only had a good defense in one of those seasons (2009). In every single other season, the offense has outperformed the defense (while being an elite offense in four of the seasons: 2006, 2007, 2010, 2013). But yeah, it's totally been Romo letting them down all along.



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Old 10-16-2013, 10:24 PM   #190
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2008 Cowboys: 18th in points scored, 20th in points allowed.

2009 Cowboys: 14th in points scored, 2nd in points allowed.
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2011 Cowboys: 15th in points scored, 16th in points allowed.
2012 Cowboys: 15th in points scored, 24th in points allowed.
2013 Cowboys: 2nd in points scored, 21st in points allowed.


Of the 7 seasons that Romo has been a starter, Dallas only had a good defense in one of those seasons (2009). In every single other season, the offense has outperformed the defense (while being an elite offense in four of the seasons: 2006, 2007, 2010, 2013). But yeah, it's totally been Romo letting them down all along.




It's hard to decide what's worse. Your irrational Alex Smith apologies (a more limited mediocrity of a QB you will not find) or your irrational Self criticism (the most successful NCAAB coach in the sport over the last decade)?

Both outlandish opinions certainly do make me laugh, though, clown.
JFC. A good, old fashioned Cowboys apologist.

Go **** yourself, moron.

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Old 10-16-2013, 10:28 PM   #191
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JFC. A good, old fashioned Cowboys apologist.
WTF? How am I a Cowboys apologist for pointing out that their defense has largely sucked over Romo's seven years as a QB? For pointing out that the Cowboys are horribly flawed and have been for quite some time now?

This is just another attempt by you to ignore the actual fact of the matter, allowing you to continue talking out of your ass about whatever ridiculous, baseless belief you might have.


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You don't, that's become quite clear in this thread by all the misinformation you're spewing about them.
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Old 10-16-2013, 10:32 PM   #193
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But yeah, it's totally been Romo letting them down all along.
Why were they only able to score 3 points versus the Vikings in the 2009 playoffs? Is that the fault of the defense?

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Go ahead and quote where I "apologized" for Alex Smith's poor play the past two weeks, dumb****.


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or your irrational Self criticism (the most successful NCAAB coach in the sport over the last decade)?
Unlike you, Butt****, I actually attended KU and receive requests for donations each year.

And unlike you, I was ****ing pissed off beyond belief when Self lost in the first round of the NCAA playoffs to dickbag teams like Bucknell and Bradley.

But since you suck cock for a living, I'm sure it didn't bother you a bit. You're used to people shitting on you when you least expect it.

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Both outlandish opinions certainly do make me laugh, though, clown.
That's because you're certified retard.
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Why were they only able to score 3 points versus the Vikings in the 2009 playoffs? Is that the fault of the defense?



Go ahead and quote where I "apologized" for Alex Smith's poor play the past two weeks, dumb****.




Unlike you, Butt****, I actually attended KU and receive requests for donations each year.

And unlike you, I was ****ing pissed off beyond belief when Self lost in the first round of the NCAA playoffs to dickbag teams like Bucknell and Bradley.

But since you suck cock for a living, I'm sure it didn't bother you a bit. You're used to people shitting on you when you least expect it.



That's because you're certified retard.
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