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Old 10-16-2013, 05:15 PM  
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Who Approves Of Obamacare?

Blacks: 91%
Hispanics: 61%
Whites: 29%


Source: Pew Research Center and USA Today survey conducted Sept. 4-8




http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...ical-edge.html
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Old 10-16-2013, 05:38 PM   #2
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Old 10-16-2013, 05:48 PM   #3
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What's free about Obamacare?
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Old 10-16-2013, 06:00 PM   #4
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What's free about Obamacare?
Many people's care, if you're young and/or healthy you're getting ****ed. The single most offensive bit is the limit that says the most expensive premium can be no more expensive than 3X the cheapest one. So if you'd normally have an expensive premium then you're getting a deal in many cases.

If you were young and/or healthy you now have to pay MUCH more for your policy because the sickest are now paying much less. So the healthiest are now subsidizing the sickest.

That frankly is not how the system should work and honestly isn't scalable. Why would the young/healthy pay to subsidize the sick? The ONLY reason to do so is if you have significant assets that you can't afford to lose in bankruptcy.

If you've got nothing you're better off telling the system to go pound sand and pay the fine. Basically the best model for most people is to not buy healthy insurance when they are young and take their chances. Only when they get old enough or sick enough should they consider buying healthy insurance. AND since you can't be denied for preexisting conditions there's really not much downside to rolling the dice.

If you get sick you'll still get treated, you just may have to declare bankruptcy if you get really unlucky when you're young. But if you can put off treatment for a few months(or manufacture a life event like a job loss), you can then buy insurance when you get sick and you're all good to go.

Hell get really sick....quit your job(or get married)....have a 'life event' that allows you to now buy insurance from the exchanges and bam you're covered the next day. Why should the young and generally healthy buy insurance off the exchanges again? Because it's the 'right' thing to do?
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Old 10-16-2013, 06:05 PM   #5
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Old 10-16-2013, 06:22 PM   #6
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It makes perfect sense why blacks and most Hispanics would favor it.
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Old 10-16-2013, 06:35 PM   #7
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Old 10-16-2013, 06:36 PM   #8
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Old 10-16-2013, 06:38 PM   #9
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Old 10-16-2013, 06:56 PM   #10
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Old 10-16-2013, 07:02 PM   #11
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Old 10-16-2013, 07:10 PM   #12
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Many people's care, if you're young and/or healthy you're getting ****ed. The single most offensive bit is the limit that says the most expensive premium can be no more expensive than 3X the cheapest one. So if you'd normally have an expensive premium then you're getting a deal in many cases.

If you were young and/or healthy you now have to pay MUCH more for your policy because the sickest are now paying much less. So the healthiest are now subsidizing the sickest.

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If you get sick you'll still get treated, you just may have to declare bankruptcy if you get really unlucky when you're young. But if you can put off treatment for a few months(or manufacture a life event like a job loss), you can then buy insurance when you get sick and you're all good to go.

Hell get really sick....quit your job(or get married)....have a 'life event' that allows you to now buy insurance from the exchanges and bam you're covered the next day. Why should the young and generally healthy buy insurance off the exchanges again? Because it's the 'right' thing to do?
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Old 10-16-2013, 07:12 PM   #13
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Old 10-16-2013, 09:23 PM   #14
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Old 10-16-2013, 10:30 PM   #15
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