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Old 10-16-2013, 05:23 PM  
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If Ted Cruz didnít exist, Democrats would have to invent him

A true cynic about American politics would, at this point, be forced to one conclusion: Sen. Ted Cruz is a Democratic sleeper agent.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...to-invent-him/

It is tough to appreciate just how much good Ted Cruz has done the Democrats over these last few weeks.

- He convinced Republicans to shut down the government rather than wait and fight over the debt ceiling, where they would have had more -- and more dangerous -- leverage.

- He splintered the Republican Party such that, from day one, it was clear that the GOP leadership opposed the strategy they were executing, and GOP senators were publicly blasting House Republicans. That also cut the GOP's leverage.

- He made this a fight over defunding Obamacare, which polls showed was a wildly unpopular reason to shut down the government, and which united Democrats against him.

- He shut the government down on Oct. 1, the same day Obamacare began, thus distracting the American people from the law's catastrophic rollout.

- He drove the Republican Party to its lowest levels of popularity ever recorded in polls.

- He actually managed to make Obamacare more popular at a time when, by all rights, the law's extremely troubled launch should've been eroding its standing in the polls.

- The culmination of the strategy, today, is that Republicans are reopening the government and raising the debt ceiling in return for...nothing.

There are no policy concessions from the Democrats (income verification is already part of Obamacare). There are no procedural concessions from the Democrats. Just the opposite, in fact.

Democrats managed to get the budget conference they've been pursuing for six months. They got a CR of the length they wanted and ending before the next sequestration cuts rather than six-month CR that Sen. Susan Collins proposed. They got a debt-ceiling increase all the way into February. This is far beyond what Democrats thought possible on Sept. 30.

But the strategy Ted Cruz managed to force on the GOP was so suicidal that Democrats felt comfortable forcing Republicans to cave completely. They were so confident that they managed to reject a deal proposed by Sen. Susan Collins and supported by many Senate Democrats because it funded the government for longer than the Democratic leadership preferred. That's a level of control over the outcome that Democrats never expected to have.

Going forward, not only will Republicans be afraid to shut down the government or threaten the debt ceiling again during this Congress, but if Republicans somehow end up doing it anyway, Democrats will be unafraid of the fight. As Democrats see it, if Republicans want to give a shutdown or a default another shot closer to the 2014 election, well, that's great news for Democratic congressional candidates.

Over the last 24 hours I've seen some Republicans complaining that President Obama and the Democrats are trying to break them. Their anger is misplaced. They should be angry at Ted Cruz for putting Republicans in a position to be broken.
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Old 11-15-2013, 08:15 AM   #31
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Another great thread.
That shutdown went real well.
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Old 11-15-2013, 08:25 AM   #32
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That shutdown went real well.
No one even remembers the shutdown. But they do remember what the shutdown was about. They're going to be living with that for the foreseeable future. Congratulations for hitching your wagon to a party of incompetents. Great choice.
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Old 11-15-2013, 08:26 AM   #33
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That shutdown went real well.
Actually it did. It set the stage to prove once and for all democrats including the idiot in the WH shouldn't be in charge of even a lemonade stand.
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Old 11-15-2013, 08:45 AM   #34
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Actually it did. It set the stage to prove once and for all democrats including the idiot in the WH shouldn't be in charge of even a lemonade stand.
It didn't. It will help keep the rudderless and fractured GOP in its position as simply being contrarians at the heels of the ones with power.
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Old 11-15-2013, 09:30 AM   #35
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It didn't. It will help keep the rudderless and fractured GOP in its position as simply being contrarians at the heels of the ones with power.
Uh, yeah, no.
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Old 11-15-2013, 09:34 AM   #36
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Old 11-15-2013, 09:41 AM   #37
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Uh, yeah, no.
He lives in the echo chamber of his own creation, I guess. Even the liberal media bubble is leaking this information. He's got a more serious anti-reality bubble going.
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But they do remember what the shutdown was about.
What was it about again?
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You want to turn is into so socialist free for everyone country and I want us to live within our means, and I'm the crazy one?
These 2 options are not mutually exclusive. Just saying.
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I'm having a hard time seeing how Ted Cruz doesn't look like an absolute hero right now for doing everything he possibly could to avoid this. He really stuck his neck out there for the American people, all these millions losing their insurance, and especially the ones with cancer who are losing their doctors. He understood the gravity of this bill... and now so does everyone else.
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He's got a more serious anti-reality bubble going.
The people who thought Romney was going to win are telling me about reality bubbles.
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The people who thought Romney was going to win are telling me about reality bubbles.
They remind me so much of those who thought Kerry was going to win.
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Old 11-15-2013, 10:45 AM   #45
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They remind me so much of those who thought Kerry was going to win.
Does it? That was a really close race. You seem to be confusing people hoping their side wins in that case to people rejecting reality and passing off things they don't want to hear as liberal bias.
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