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Old 10-17-2013, 12:46 AM  
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Is the Republican Party the thing of the past? Doom and Gloom

I'll give the democrats this, they have a brilliant approach to guarantee a long career in politics. They won't be beaten again.

Keys to victory:
-Own the mainstream media. CNN, MSNBC etc
-Own the national news papers. NYT, Washington Post etc
-Own the online "news" like Yahoo News and other popular online news sites.
-Own Hollywood

This creates propaganda 24x7.

-Own the uninformed voter that cares more about voting based on race or their own personal agenda's instead of what's better for the country.

-Black vote is heavy Obama for the simple reason: he is black. They own a strong advantage in the woman's vote because of Pro Choice and they revere Hillary Clinton.

-Own the poor vote by sacrificing the upper/middle class by extreme taxes. They are much more likely to turn out because what else do they have to do other than vote. Voting can be seen as their job, because if they don't vote, their handouts can get taken away or altered. They are also moving a lot of the middle class into the poor class, thus increasing their voting pool.

-Own the Hispanic vote by opening the floodgates along the southern border no matter how damaging this is to the economy. This vote will only get larger.

-Own the younger vote by putting extreme leftist in colleges to pollute young, impressionable minds.

-Buy votes with special treatment. Obamacare is hated by the country, yet they depend on the unions so they pass exemptions for them. Oh, don't want their own party in congress to start questioning it, so they pass exemptions for them.


Their tactics are sickening, but brilliant. No way can the Republicans or any potential party compete with the propaganda machine, free handouts and illegal immigrants amnesty. I honestly can't see the Republicans ever winning another presidential election and after this latest f up, I don't see them controlling the house/senate anytime soon.

Never has a President been able to and excused for lying as much as Obama. Never have I seen a President continue to convince people that it's OK to spend up to 1/4 of your income on healthcare, where no where in the world spends more than 4% of their income on healthcare. I sat and watched a young democrat college student at a very prominent school beg to be taxed 60% of her income or more. Are you effing stupid I thought?

I think there is more likely to be a civil war, complete collapse of the US or the red states seceding before republicans control the white house again, not unless things change significantly.

As an American, I am terrified. Regardless of political affiliation, you should be to.

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Old 10-17-2013, 12:36 PM   #16
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Illegals are the backbone of the CA economy?
Pretty sure he means Agriculture is the backbone of the CA Economy....which is predominately Mexicans Illegal or not.
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Old 10-17-2013, 12:41 PM   #17
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Pretty sure he means Agriculture is the backbone of the CA Economy....which is predominately Mexicans Illegal or not.
What evidence is there that Ag is the main driver? I don't believe that for a second
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Old 10-17-2013, 12:46 PM   #18
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Illegals are the backbone of the CA economy?
If he's referring to agriculture, he isn't even close. But why let pesky facts get in the way of liberal propaganda?
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Old 10-17-2013, 12:53 PM   #19
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What evidence is there that Ag is the main driver? I don't believe that for a second
Im at work and dont have time to do some research, but a quick google search shows that CA is the top producing state in the country.....so one could assume that agriculture is a major contributor to our economy: http://econpost.com/industry/agricul...-10-states-gdp
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Pretty sure he means Agriculture is the backbone of the CA Economy....which is predominately Mexicans Illegal or not.
That would make more sense. Ag is huge there. But so is Tech and Entertainment. I don't know the percentages though...
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Old 10-17-2013, 01:00 PM   #23
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If he's referring to agriculture, he isn't even close. But why let pesky facts get in the way of liberal propaganda?
Yeah I'd have to see the numbers on that one first...
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Im at work and dont have time to do some research, but a quick google search shows that CA is the top producing state in the country.....so one could assume that agriculture is a major contributor to our economy: http://econpost.com/industry/agricul...-10-states-gdp





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Ag is 2% of California's economy...at least according to the pretty pie chart.

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Republicans talk down about nearly every group that isn't themselves ... but your pigheaded stubborn asses do all the work for them. The Republicans put the nail in their own coffin and are too dumb to realize it so they blame everything and everyone else instead.
Ironic post is ironic.

But it's also simply misinformed. At worst, Democrats are the equal of Republicans in the 'haughtiness' category. As has been said many times around here, Democrats are the party of inclusion, so long as you agree with them.

Look at the rhetoric they've been throwing around even over the last couple of weeks. Republicans have been called every name in the book, all the way up to terrorists.

The issue as I see it anyway is that the Democratic ideology is a phenomenal soundbite ideology. Hell, I've been saying that since the late-90s when I become at all politically aware. Being a Democrat sounds far more fun and simply more fair on its face. In 10 second quips, populism rules the world.

And things like the rise of the Twitterverse and the constant bombardment of messages (or stimuli in general), we've become a culture based around soundbites. The Republican soundbite is a harder pitch to make - immigration is a perfect example. It just sounds mean whereas the D approach of letting everyone in and being inclusive doesn't. In the end, however, the D approach isn't tenable either because of simple stuff like the Freerider Effect that we've known about for decades.

The Republican Party isn't dead because the Democratic economic approach can't hold up. According to some of our esteemed D posters around here, the fact that the economy has been in a stall at best throughout Obama's administration is the Rs fault, but lets say another D wins in 2016 - it'll stay in a stall. If the Ds take control of the House and Senate, it'll go into outright freefall. Businesses cannot and will not operate in this climate of regulation. I know it's absolutely blistering my firm and that's only because our clients have been so overwrought by the demands being made on them that they're passing them down. The economy can't thrive under this.

But it can't really be allowed to run completely unregulated either. There's a happy medium that the electorate inadvertently creates through their fickle nature. The worm will turn - it always does. And it will be because the D's will eventually run out of people to blame for a wrongheaded economic approach.

Rs are fighting uphill - there's no question. It's harder to build arguments in 140 characters centered on self-sufficiency and fiscal responsibility. And I'm sorry, Ds just cannot claim there is no media bias - there clearly is. But it's not an impossible battle and the R message still resonates in many many ways with the majority of Americans. They just need to stop taking bait and allowing shiny objects distract them into fights that they don't want. Quit arguing gay marriage - you'll lose (again, the soundbites are awful). Quit allowing yourself to get drawn into friggen discourses on rape. How the !@#$ does that even happen?

Just focus on outcomes - because for a vast majority of Americans, the Obama administrations outcomes will be largely negative. These Obamacare measures are going to lead to increased premiums, tax burdens and joblessness for more people than it helps. The Democrats, as is their custom, will blame everyone else for those problems but in the end the Democratic Messiah's name is slapped on the thing. Good luck passing that off as a Republican screwup.
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Hey not my statement lol. I'm just clarifying what he meant.
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Ironic post is ironic.

But it's also simply misinformed. At worst, Democrats are the equal of Republicans in the 'haughtiness' category. As has been said many times around here, Democrats are the party of inclusion, so long as you agree with them.
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Like I said, Detox - there is an abundance of absolute pricks on either side. I do think it's fair to say that the D's have done a lot better job of keeping theirs out of the national spotlight. Then again, dictating exactly what the national spotlight shines on helps in that regard.
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Like I said, Detox - there is an abundance of absolute pricks on either side. I do think it's fair to say that the D's have done a lot better job of keeping theirs out of the national spotlight. Then again, dictating exactly what the national spotlight shines on helps in that regard.
The OP is just an updated version of the culture wars that have waged for going on 50 years. That shit's old, and I think most people Gen X and under want the country to move past it.

There's literally no factual basis for any of his allegations. Blacks didn't vote for Obama because of race.... they always vote Democratic (it boosted turnout, but that's a separate argument). Extreme taxes, are you ****ing kidding me? You'd think the highest marginal tax rate had been restored to JFK levels. Max 4% spending on HC in other countries is demonstrably false. Etc.

Also, re civility, perhaps the RWNJs might want to avoid degrading the national dialogue by calling the President a unAmerican Kenyan Muslim usurper. That does drag things into the gutter a bit.

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