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Old 10-18-2013, 01:55 AM  
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Rank the Chiefs 2014 draft needs

Mine:

QB - Obviously.

OLB - Hali won't play forever and we need to be ready for that contingency. I keep anticipating his fall from glory and he keeps being a monster.

RB - I wouldn't count on Charles being the man next year, after the punishment he has taken this year. I was never really high on Knile Davis, and he still has ball security issues that plagued him at Arkansas.

WR - Obviously, receivers aren't getting sufficient separation for our current QB. If we get a new QB, he will need a second option.

DL - Jackson/Devito are adequate but Jackson is on a one year deal. Catapano is looking promising, but we still lack depth.

OL - I don't think personnel is the issue here, but something CLEARLY has to change to make it work.

ILB - DJ isn't getting any younger and we would be a hurting unit if he were injured. Jordan is on a one-year deal. I do love what Nico brings to the table, but he really doesn't fill DJ's role.

CB - We need someone to replace Dunta next year

S - Well, I can't complain about this position, but it had to get in here somehow. I hope we re-sign Abdullah and Demps, though.
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Old 10-19-2013, 08:01 AM   #16
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Hell, Andy Reid brought in tons of QBs even when McNabb was the guy.
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Old 10-19-2013, 08:27 AM   #17
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You dudes are ****ing nuts.

They ain't looking at a QB no how, no way.

Smith is five years minimum. Reid and Dorsey love the guy and he's a solid player at the position. (e.g., You know what the difference between the 6-0 Chiefs and 2-4 Texans is? Interceptions. Smith doesn't throw them.)

Bray is the guy that you all want them to sign - big arm, physical attributes, etc. He needs to be coached but he's exactly what all of you want in a prospect QB, and guess what? They signed that guy.

Herp derp.

You guys have to let it go. There is a little thing called reality that you should really think about embracing.
You're right it's never the right time to take a quarterback in Kansas City hell why would we ever draft one?

Good call.
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Old 10-19-2013, 09:06 AM   #18
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Whatever. Anyone saying Smith has 5 years of job security based on his performance thusfar needs their head checked.
Anyone who isn't objective enough to understand that Smith and the rest of the offensive unit is operating out of a completely new system, the tight end group is two dudes off the street, the wide receivers have shit for hands and the offensive line is very young and isn't playing well, which results in a lack of cohesion and chemistry which subsequently results in less overall positive production but is still yielding a perfect record so far into the season but still wants to criticize the quarterback specifically as the sole reason why the offense is not performing to the same level as the 2000 Rams or 1998 Vikings needs their head checked.

Reid has already spoke glowingly about Smith leadership skills, huddle presence and capabilities as a QB and specifically stated that the offense and Reid himself needs to get better in order to help his QB perform better.

This is a team in it's infancy, with all parts learning on a daily basis how to get better as a whole. There is no way on God's green earth that they are bringing in a quarterback controversy potential after a single season. You are freaking absolute nuts if you think that is even the most distant and remote of possibilities.

The only guy that's getting replaced as a QB on this roster over the next two to three years is Bray as the third team "young dude, let's try to groom this guy and see what we've got" QB option. And that's only if he's viewed as a complete basketcase.

All of you "We need a first round, home grown QB that the Chiefs picked for themselves!!!" guys should think about taking a sabbatical because it's not going to happen for a while. If you can't get it out of your system, I might suggest getting a little more acquainted with a team like the Texans, the Cardinals, the Browns, the Jaguars, the Vikings, the Patriots, the Giants or the Redskins, as all of those teams are far closer to needing a new starting QB than the Chiefs. (And, amazingly enough, several of those teams have spent very recent first round picks on a QB, but yet, oddly enough, they will be most likely looking at doing it again. Weird, huh?)
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Old 10-19-2013, 01:53 PM   #19
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Anyone who isn't objective enough to understand that Smith and the rest of the offensive unit is operating out of a completely new system, the tight end group is two dudes off the street, the wide receivers have shit for hands and the offensive line is very young and isn't playing well, which results in a lack of cohesion and chemistry which subsequently results in less overall positive production but is still yielding a perfect record so far into the season but still wants to criticize the quarterback specifically as the sole reason why the offense is not performing to the same level as the 2000 Rams or 1998 Vikings needs their head checked.

Reid has already spoke glowingly about Smith leadership skills, huddle presence and capabilities as a QB and specifically stated that the offense and Reid himself needs to get better in order to help his QB perform better.

This is a team in it's infancy, with all parts learning on a daily basis how to get better as a whole. There is no way on God's green earth that they are bringing in a quarterback controversy potential after a single season. You are freaking absolute nuts if you think that is even the most distant and remote of possibilities.

The only guy that's getting replaced as a QB on this roster over the next two to three years is Bray as the third team "young dude, let's try to groom this guy and see what we've got" QB option. And that's only if he's viewed as a complete basketcase.

All of you "We need a first round, home grown QB that the Chiefs picked for themselves!!!" guys should think about taking a sabbatical because it's not going to happen for a while. If you can't get it out of your system, I might suggest getting a little more acquainted with a team like the Texans, the Cardinals, the Browns, the Jaguars, the Vikings, the Patriots, the Giants or the Redskins, as all of those teams are far closer to needing a new starting QB than the Chiefs. (And, amazingly enough, several of those teams have spent very recent first round picks on a QB, but yet, oddly enough, they will be most likely looking at doing it again. Weird, huh?)
Saccopoo wants to make some excuses and play the 6-0 card. Get real Sacc. Several teams have implemented new offenses and had no problem executing them. And yes, while the offensive line play is an abortion, a franchise QB will overcome that. Further, I would bet we draft a few QBs over the next five years since that was the Packer way. Hell, Andy Reid drafted a QB every other year.
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Old 10-19-2013, 03:45 PM   #20
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In terms of team politics, however, Sac's dead right. That's no doubt the absolute mindset the Reid/Dorsey system have right now.

I disagree with them, as do many of the folks on this site. But there's no doubt that's exactly how they feel about it.
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Old 10-19-2013, 03:46 PM   #21
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Although, Sac, please tell me you agree that the Chase Daniel project needs to end sooner rather than later.

I can see Reid/Dorsey drafting a QB in the 3rd or 4th if the value's there. And if he blows up in the preseason, the team could/would cut Daniel.
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Old 10-19-2013, 04:16 PM   #22
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Old 10-19-2013, 04:25 PM   #23
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As far as I can tell, most people in this thread (generally the draftnik-est among CP) are advocating for a QB, are we not?
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Old 10-19-2013, 04:39 PM   #24
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As far as I can tell, most people in this thread (generally the draftnik-est among CP) are advocating for a QB, are we not?
Key words: This thread.

Get out of DraftPlanet and ask the riff-raff. Everyone's response to the bitching about the offense is to bring up a so-called weakness at those three positions.
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Old 10-19-2013, 04:58 PM   #25
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Key words: This thread.

Get out of DraftPlanet and ask the riff-raff. Everyone's response to the bitching about the offense is to bring up a so-called weakness at those three positions.
"Would help if we had receivers who could get open!"

Every time somebody posts that, my blood pressure spikes
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"Would help if we had receivers who could get open!"

Every time somebody posts that, my blood pressure spikes
Same here, along with acting as if Anthony Fasano is the missing like to this offense.

It's not like we have Gronk, Graham, Davis, Gonzo or hell, even Martellus Bennett injured.

Anthony.

Fasano.

GMAFB.
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Although, Sac, please tell me you agree that the Chase Daniel project needs to end sooner rather than later.

I can see Reid/Dorsey drafting a QB in the 3rd or 4th if the value's there. And if he blows up in the preseason, the team could/would cut Daniel.
Potentially.

Though has anyone really ever seen what Daniel is capable of at this level? He obviously brings something to the table, otherwise he isn't in the role he is with both the Saints and the Chiefs - both coached by guys who are considered QB gurus.

And I do see them potentially looking at guys in that area of the draft at the QB spot, but it's not going to happen for at least another two seasons. They are going to shore up the weak spots on the offense in this next draft, and that isn't going to include the QB position despite what the CP negativists say.

Wide receiver and offensive line are going to be the focal points in the next draft, particularly if Asamoah and Allen don't pick up their game. And they will need a new OT as I'll be shocked if Albert is still around in 2014.
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Same here, along with acting as if Anthony Fasano is the missing like to this offense.

It's not like we have Gronk, Graham, Davis, Gonzo or hell, even Martellus Bennett injured.

Anthony.

Fasano.

GMAFB.
And that's why everyone outside of the "We gotta draft a QB in the first round!1!!11!" crowd realizes that OL, TE and WR are positions where the Chiefs could upgrade.

Everyone is in awe of the year that Peyton Noodle Arm is having, but I hope that they realize that Denver has a very good offensive line, a stellar WR corps and a pretty decent tight end group. You have that and it definitely helps your QB look a lot better come game day.

Not everyone is Tom Brady or Johnny ****ing Unitas for Christ's sake.
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And that's why everyone outside of the "We gotta draft a QB in the first round!1!!11!" crowd realizes that OL, TE and WR are positions where the Chiefs could upgrade.

Everyone is in awe of the year that Peyton Noodle Arm is having, but I hope that they realize that Denver has a very good offensive line, a stellar WR corps and a pretty decent tight end group. You have that and it definitely helps your QB look a lot better come game day.

Not everyone is Tom Brady or Johnny ****ing Unitas for Christ's sake.
I hope you realize that we can upgrade the QB position and it will make everyone else better.

You do realize that all of these players looked significantly worse without peyton manning at the helm, right? He helps by ensuring the offense gets more reps and makes the most of the reps they get. Further, he makes all of the calls at the line in terms of protection and changes the play based on his ability to read a defense.
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