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Old 10-18-2013, 03:46 AM  
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Conservatives accuse McConnell of 'Kentucky kickback' for $2.9 BILLION pork earmark

Conservative groups ripped into Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, accusing him of earmarking $2 billion for a famously troubled lock-and-dam project that would benefit his home state as part of the bill to reopen the government and avert a debt default.

“It’s the Kentucky Kickback,” the Senate Conservatives Fund, which is considering backing McConnell’s primary opponent, wrote in a blog post. “In exchange for funding Obamacare and raising the debt limit, Mitch McConnell has secured a $2 billion earmark. This is an insult to all the Kentucky families who don’t want to pay for Obamacare and don’t want to shoulder any more debt.”


The measure, which is supported by the White House and doesn’t actually spend any money, would raise the amount authorized for the Olmsted Lock and Dam project to $2.9 billion from $775 million.


RedState editor Erick Erickson also said on Twitter that McConnell had “carved out an earmark for himself,” and Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) blasted the provision.


“These people are like alcoholics. They can’t resist taking a drink. It’s ridiculous. It’s absolutely ridiculous. It should have gone through the normal legislative process,” McCain told The Daily Beast

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/1...#ixzz2i3rVCvmp
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Old 10-18-2013, 08:15 AM   #2
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The measure, which is supported by the White House and doesn’t actually spend any money, would raise the amount authorized for the Olmsted Lock and Dam project to $2.9 billion from $775 million.
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Old 10-18-2013, 08:31 AM   #4
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Old 10-18-2013, 08:41 AM   #5
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raising the debt ceiling does not increase the debt...
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Old 10-18-2013, 08:41 AM   #6
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Its same math used to project the cost of a partial shutdown....that wasnt really a shutdown
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Old 10-18-2013, 08:57 AM   #8
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He stuck some pork in the end the shutdown bill. Sounds like his fellow conservatives wern't in on the pork deal.

I just found the article soemwhere and thought it was interesting that any member of Congress would complain about pork. Wheres the congressmen that doesn't take or want pork for their districts?
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Old 10-18-2013, 09:06 AM   #9
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He stuck some pork in the end the shutdown bill. Sounds like his fellow conservatives wern't in on the pork deal.

I just found the article soemwhere and thought it was interesting that any member of Congress would complain about pork. Wheres the congressmen that doesn't take or want pork for their districts?
That's not my question. I quoted a specific part of the article. It said that this measure doesn't actually spend any money. Do you know what it means by that?
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They are going to send borrowed money to pay for this but never pay back the loan. Not spend real money.
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Old 10-18-2013, 11:43 AM   #13
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Authorization doesn’t directly provide any additional money for the project but would make it eligible for inclusion in appropriations bills. The Army Corps of Engineers has a multibillion-dollar backlog of authorized projects that were never completed.

If the $2.9 billion is ever actually appropriated, half would come from general funds and half would come from a 20-cents-per-gallon fuel tax paid by barge owners under current law. However, provisions in both the House and Senate version of the Water Resources Development Act change that funding formula, meaning taxpayers could end up stuck with a much bigger portion of the cost.
They buried that part.
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That's not my question. I quoted a specific part of the article. It said that this measure doesn't actually spend any money. Do you know what it means by that?
In the appropriations world you have authorizing language and appropriation language. The authorizing language sets forth the amount that can be spent on a given program or project. It is then up to the appropriators to spend as much or as little as they choose up to that amount. In this case the project is authorized for $2billion but if they spend zero dollars on it then that is fine. If they spend 10 million then that too is fine. But because something is authorized doesn't mean it has been funded.

Congress authorizes spending on a number of occasions that don't then get funded. Those become "unfunded mandates". Conversely, this is the process by which one would also defund a program, such as ObamaCare. Yes, the law says spend X amount but, as appropriators, they can refuse to write the check. Hence it has been defunded. This is a year to year part of the budget process.
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I don't know if Grimes will fit the bill but give it a shot.
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