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Old 10-18-2013, 09:24 PM  
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ObamaCare popularity on the rise again....

Gallup: Number of Americans Who Will Refuse To Join Obamacare And Instead Pay Individual Mandate Fine Jumps To 34%, Up 9 Points Since Last Month…

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Old 10-18-2013, 09:27 PM   #2
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We're considering dropping insurance altogether and just paying the fine and signing up for insurance if we need it. We can use the difference to pay down debt and start a nest egg in the event we need to sign up for insurance. I'm looking into concierge services for the area before I'd be comfortable with that option.
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Old 10-19-2013, 06:38 AM   #3
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You can only sign up during the enrollment window. So if you suddenly need insurance, try to pick a slow developing illness.
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Old 10-19-2013, 07:06 AM   #4
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If that many people go with paying the fine, the ACA will not be able to sustain itself. Somewhere, revenues (aka "taxes") will be instituted or increased to pay for it.

I doubt that the fine amount will be increased; that would be changing the law.
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Old 10-19-2013, 08:17 AM   #5
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I doubt that the fine amount will be increased; that would be changing the law.
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Cause that will never happen. Oh wait. It already did. Those damn wreckless teapartiers changing laws, how dare they!?! Oh wait, it wasn't them. It was our emperor.
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Old 10-19-2013, 09:33 AM   #6
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You can only sign up during the enrollment window. So if you suddenly need insurance, try to pick a slow developing illness.
You can't be denied for pre-existing conditions.
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Old 10-19-2013, 09:59 AM   #7
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Old 10-19-2013, 10:18 AM   #8
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Old 10-19-2013, 02:42 PM   #9
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You can't be denied for pre-existing conditions.
Yes but if you don't signup you have to wait until the enrollment window for the next year (just like employer-based insurance).
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Old 10-19-2013, 03:00 PM   #10
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Yes but if you don't signup you have to wait until the enrollment window for the next year (just like employer-based insurance).
Right now you can't even sign up during the window, so what does it matter?
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Old 10-19-2013, 03:02 PM   #11
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Right now you can't even sign up during the window, so what does it matter?
They should extend the window for however long it's down...
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Old 10-19-2013, 03:04 PM   #12
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If that many people go with paying the fine, the ACA will not be able to sustain itself. Somewhere, revenues (aka "taxes") will be instituted or increased to pay for it.

I doubt that the fine amount will be increased; that would be changing the law.
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To try to ensure that people sign up for coverage, the Affordable Care Act carries complex penalties for those who remain uninsured that could cost them hundreds, or even thousands of dollars. Some 6 million people could be hit with these fines in 2016, forking $7 billion over to the federal government, according to the Congressional Budget Office.


The penalties start relatively small, but ramp up within a few years. But there is a limit. They cannot exceed the national average premium for bronze coverage -- the cheapest plan tier -- in the state-based exchanges.

For 2014, the flat fee is $95 per adult and $47.50 per child, up to $285 per family. Or the penalty could be 1% of family income, if that results in a larger fine. (Income is defined as total income above the filing threshold, which is $10,000 for an individual and $20,000 for a family in 2013.)

By 2016, the flat fees grow to $695 per adult and $347.50 per child or 2.5% of family income, whichever is greater. By then, the average premium for bronze coverage is expected to hit as much as $5,000 for an individual and $12,500 for a family.


Not every uninsured person will be subject to the penalty, however. In fact, 80% of the 30 million Americans expected to lack coverage in 2016 will be exempt from the mandate, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

Among those exempted include: undocumented immigrants, Native Americans and those who earn too little to file tax returns. Also, people who would have to pay more than 8% of their income for health insurance and poor adults who live in states that are not expanding Medicaid also aren't subject to the penalty. The uninsured can also file for hardship exemptions.
The fines should prevent some of the uninsured from just flouting the rules.
"The penalty is to reinforce behavior on the margins," said Karen Pollitz, senior fellow at the Kaiser Family Foundation.
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Old 10-19-2013, 03:10 PM   #13
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They should extend the window for however long it's down...
The left owns this. It cracks me up reading the groupies beating their chests proclaiming the GOP is dead. Both parties have been written off at one time or another. This healthcare debacle is not looking promising and if it blows up people will once again look at the menu. There are only two flavors available. It will be interesting to see which one is the flavor of the month come election time~
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Old 10-19-2013, 03:11 PM   #14
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The left owns this. It cracks me up reading the groupies beating their chests proclaiming the GOP is dead. Both parties have been written off at one time or another. This healthcare debacle is not looking promising and if it blows up people will once again look at the menu. There are only two flavors available. It will be interesting to see which one is the flavor of the month come election time~
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