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Old 10-19-2013, 07:54 PM  
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Obama asks top court not to take case on NSA cyber-snooping

US asks top court not to take case on NSA cyber-snooping

President Barack Obama's administration is urging the Supreme Court not to take up the first case it has received on controversial National Security Agency cybersnooping.

US government attorneys argue that the Supreme Court does not have the jurisdiction to take the case, filed in July by the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC).

EPIC believes the NSA overstepped its authority by carrying out broad communications monitoring and surveillance worldwide, and demanded the program be stopped.

A US Supreme Court decision to take the case would be "a drastic and extraordinary remedy that is reserved for really extraordinary causes," argued Donald Verrilli, an administration lawyer, in a statement released late Tuesday.

The US administration also believes the EIPC suit cannot move forward because it argues the court lacks authority under the 2001 Patriot Act to weigh in on the legality of NSA activities.

"This court lacks jurisdiction to issue a writ of certiorari to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court," the secret intelligence affairs court, Verrilli added.

In mid-August President Barack Obama pledged to overhaul US spy programs amid a debate sparked by the leaks of former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden, which revealed vast telephone and Internet surveillance programs.

Obama promised a new era in intelligence with more supervision, transparency and safeguards in the NSA's collection of electronic information.

His administration has however maintained a hard line against the leaking of such information, and is seeking to prosecute Snowden on espionage charges.

After the disclosures Snowden fled to Hong Kong and then to Russia, where he has been granted one year's temporary asylum despite Washington's demands that he be returned.

The National Security Agency is gathering email and instant messenger contact lists from hundreds of millions of ordinary citizens worldwide, many of them Americans, The Washington Post reported late Monday.

The US agency's data collection program harvests the data from address books and "buddy lists," the newspaper said, citing senior intelligence officials and top secret documents provided by the fugitive NSA contractor Edward Snowden.

During a single day last year, the NSA's Special Source Operations branch collected 444,743 e-mail address books from Yahoo, 105,068 from Hotmail, 82,857 from Facebook, 33,697 from Gmail and 22,881 from unspecified other providers, the Post said, according to an internal NSA PowerPoint presentation.

The figures, described as a typical daily intake of the document, correspond to a rate of more than 250?million a year, according to the report, which was published on the newspaper's website.

The NSA declined to confirm the specific allegations in the Post report but defended its surveillance activities as legal and respectful of privacy rights.


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Old 10-19-2013, 07:56 PM   #2
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Old 10-19-2013, 07:59 PM   #3
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Old 10-19-2013, 08:06 PM   #5
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"The US administration also believes the EIPC suit cannot move forward because it argues the court lacks authority..."

That sentence almost made my head explode.
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The Supreme Court lacks authority... there it is, this guy respects nothing.

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Old 10-19-2013, 08:31 PM   #7
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Republican voters supported snooping when their guy was in, now liberals support it. So that's your answer
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Old 10-19-2013, 08:59 PM   #9
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Ignorance.

In short, this EPIC group is trying to take this directly to the Supreme Court and the Justice Department is saying this doesn't met the requirements for such a review. They are saying it should go to district court as other similar challenges have done.
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Old 10-19-2013, 09:03 PM   #10
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Ignorance.

In short, this EPIC group is trying to take this directly to the Supreme Court and the Justice Department is saying this doesn't met the requirements for such a review. They are saying it should go to district court as other similar challenges have done.
Are you ignoring this sentence in the article:

The US administration also believes the EIPC suit cannot move forward because it argues the court lacks authority under the 2001 Patriot Act to weigh in on the legality of NSA activities
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Old 10-19-2013, 09:17 PM   #11
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Are you ignoring this sentence in the article:

The US administration also believes the EIPC suit cannot move forward because it argues the court lacks authority under the 2001 Patriot Act to weigh in on the legality of NSA activities
I wouldn't put a whole lot of stock into the description presented in the article seeing as how they left out the part I mentioned.
There are three lawsuits currently in district courts over the NSA program.
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Old 10-19-2013, 09:17 PM   #12
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Old 10-19-2013, 09:28 PM   #13
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I wouldn't put a whole lot of stock into the description presented in the article seeing as how they left out the part I mentioned.
There are three lawsuits currently in district courts over the NSA program.
I have been trying to find the text of the press release attributed to Solicitor General Donald Virilli. But, anyway, yes the article does:

"This court lacks jurisdiction to issue a writ of certiorari to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court," the secret intelligence affairs court, Verrilli added.

That's a separate issue.
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Old 10-19-2013, 09:32 PM   #14
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I am not 100% fluent in legalese by any means but isn't he saying that the Supreme Court isn't supposed to take up this case because it wasn't begun in a lower court?
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