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Old 10-19-2013, 06:54 PM  
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Obama asks top court not to take case on NSA cyber-snooping

US asks top court not to take case on NSA cyber-snooping

President Barack Obama's administration is urging the Supreme Court not to take up the first case it has received on controversial National Security Agency cybersnooping.

US government attorneys argue that the Supreme Court does not have the jurisdiction to take the case, filed in July by the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC).

EPIC believes the NSA overstepped its authority by carrying out broad communications monitoring and surveillance worldwide, and demanded the program be stopped.

A US Supreme Court decision to take the case would be "a drastic and extraordinary remedy that is reserved for really extraordinary causes," argued Donald Verrilli, an administration lawyer, in a statement released late Tuesday.

The US administration also believes the EIPC suit cannot move forward because it argues the court lacks authority under the 2001 Patriot Act to weigh in on the legality of NSA activities.

"This court lacks jurisdiction to issue a writ of certiorari to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court," the secret intelligence affairs court, Verrilli added.

In mid-August President Barack Obama pledged to overhaul US spy programs amid a debate sparked by the leaks of former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden, which revealed vast telephone and Internet surveillance programs.

Obama promised a new era in intelligence with more supervision, transparency and safeguards in the NSA's collection of electronic information.

His administration has however maintained a hard line against the leaking of such information, and is seeking to prosecute Snowden on espionage charges.

After the disclosures Snowden fled to Hong Kong and then to Russia, where he has been granted one year's temporary asylum despite Washington's demands that he be returned.

The National Security Agency is gathering email and instant messenger contact lists from hundreds of millions of ordinary citizens worldwide, many of them Americans, The Washington Post reported late Monday.

The US agency's data collection program harvests the data from address books and "buddy lists," the newspaper said, citing senior intelligence officials and top secret documents provided by the fugitive NSA contractor Edward Snowden.

During a single day last year, the NSA's Special Source Operations branch collected 444,743 e-mail address books from Yahoo, 105,068 from Hotmail, 82,857 from Facebook, 33,697 from Gmail and 22,881 from unspecified other providers, the Post said, according to an internal NSA PowerPoint presentation.

The figures, described as a typical daily intake of the document, correspond to a rate of more than 250?million a year, according to the report, which was published on the newspaper's website.

The NSA declined to confirm the specific allegations in the Post report but defended its surveillance activities as legal and respectful of privacy rights.


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Old 10-20-2013, 07:10 PM   #16
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Old 10-21-2013, 05:54 AM   #18
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Republican voters supported snooping when their guy was in, now liberals support it. So that's your answer
There's the typical liberal response : 'It was horrible when W did it, but Obama is doing now, so it's okay...'

There's the 'hope & change' you ****ing ignorant racist mults voted for -- TWICE.

'well...but, but W...'. is that where y'all are now??? Comparing the scope of administrative FAILURE??

My ****ing parents voted for this shit...and they're idiots.

I can't believe that there are people in their 40's and 50's who are so weak and brainwashed as to actually not even question the Messianic pop culture icon that is OBAMA.

****ing LOSERS.
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Old 10-21-2013, 08:22 AM   #19
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I am not 100% fluent in legalese by any means but isn't he saying that the Supreme Court isn't supposed to take up this case because it wasn't begun in a lower court?

Yeah, looks like it. I'm ONLY going by the obviously highly biased stuff included in the OP, but it looks like the Administration is saying there is no procedural way for the SCOTUS to fast-track the issue to its desk without it first going through the normal process of lower court review.

Which is probably true.

But the right wants to spin it as an out of control POTUS who is grabbing for dictatorial powers next week. If Shithead was here he'd be sure to mention the Reichstag fire, etc.
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Old 10-21-2013, 09:51 AM   #20
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Republican voters supported snooping when their guy was in, now liberals support it. So that's your answer
There is much truth here and it is not a small part of why this country is FUBAR
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Bob Dole isn't going to spend the time looking for a more appropriate NSA-related thread, but thought this article had some interesting tidbits in it.

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Old 10-22-2013, 03:05 PM   #22
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Yeah, looks like it. I'm ONLY going by the obviously highly biased stuff included in the OP, but it looks like the Administration is saying there is no procedural way for the SCOTUS to fast-track the issue to its desk without it first going through the normal process of lower court review.

Which is probably true.

But the right wants to spin it as an out of control POTUS who is grabbing for dictatorial powers next week. If Shithead was here he'd be sure to mention the Reichstag fire, etc.
I was trying to find a copy of the original press release from the Solicitor General but had no luck. This is parsed and, in my opinion, therefore questionable.
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Are you ignoring this sentence in the article:

The US administration also believes the EIPC suit cannot move forward because it argues the court lacks authority under the 2001 Patriot Act to weigh in on the legality of NSA activities
I don't know enough about the ins and outs of the Patriot Act to know if that's accurate, but the Constitution gives Congress the power to define the jurisdiction of the courts so it may well be true.
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