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Old 10-20-2013, 06:06 PM  
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You know when it comes to politics, **** Cheney

However, as a heart patient, I salute the shit out of him. Inspirational.
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Old 10-22-2013, 07:29 AM   #16
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If it weren't for the Cheneys of the world, I'd guess there'd be no procedure to benefit the Diddies. It ain't like the Diddies could pay for it.
Hell no I couldn't. If it weren't the obamas who made it so I could get coverage on preexisting condition, I probably would be straight up shit creek.


Cheney, btw, did not a thing to help my situation, so get that our of your head. I was just inspired about the way he looked at things with his heart in such bad shape. He lead an extraordinary life after his operations.
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Old 10-22-2013, 08:04 AM   #17
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Hell no I couldn't. If it weren't the obamas who made it so I could get coverage on preexisting condition, I probably would be straight up shit creek.


Cheney, btw, did not a thing to help my situation, so get that our of your head. I was just inspired about the way he looked at things with his heart in such bad shape. He lead an extraordinary life after his operations.
You don't appear to fully appreciate how much you owe to sick, wealthy people who came before you for your best-in-the-world health care.

Did you have health insurance when you had your heart treatments?
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Old 10-22-2013, 08:40 AM   #18
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You don't appear to fully appreciate how much you owe to sick, wealthy people who came before you for your best-in-the-world health care.

Did you have health insurance when you had your heart treatments?
I did through united healthcare, prior to the law passing nobody would cover my heart due to it having a congenital defect and the heavy cost.

That being said, I fully appreciate those who came before me in terms of medical advances and treatment, but let's be realistic here. The research, the majority of which came through universities, is what saved me. Not the fact that Cheney had heart problems and through an added benefit it trickled down to me.

Like I said, I don't like Cheney's politics but the way he dealt with his heart problems considering the tasks he had to do is inspirational.
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Old 10-22-2013, 09:14 AM   #19
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I did through united healthcare, prior to the law passing nobody would cover my heart due to it having a congenital defect and the heavy cost.

That being said, I fully appreciate those who came before me in terms of medical advances and treatment, but let's be realistic here. The research, the majority of which came through universities, is what saved me. Not the fact that Cheney had heart problems and through an added benefit it trickled down to me.

Like I said, I don't like Cheney's politics but the way he dealt with his heart problems considering the tasks he had to do is inspirational.
It was possible for you to get coverage prior to Obamacare. The new law just made it easier.

Research isn't free, nor is all the high tech equipment from which you benefited. Those things are paid for by people with money either directly through their consumption of advanced medical services and their donations or indirectly through their health insurance and their taxes. Be grateful.

There are no exceptions to Cheney's ability to inspire.
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Old 10-22-2013, 09:29 AM   #20
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Do we know for sure pat isn't Cheney?
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Old 10-22-2013, 09:32 AM   #21
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It was possible for you to get coverage prior to Obamacare. The new law just made it easier.

Research isn't free, nor is all the high tech equipment from which you benefited. Those things are paid for by people with money either directly through their consumption of advanced medical services and their donations or indirectly through their health insurance and their taxes. Be grateful.

There are no exceptions to Cheney's ability to inspire.
Well I must have missed out, because the 3 jobs I had prior all exempted my heart condition from coverage due to preexisting condition. Research is not free; however, the majority of it being contributed come from universities, grants and granted an occasional donor.

I know your purpose here is to try to wrap me up with a big thank you to DC, but that's not going to happen. Furthermore, I know not why you are exploring this. I stated as a heart patient he's inspirational but I dislike his politics. I'm having a hard time understanding why you're doing what you're doing.
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Old 10-22-2013, 09:33 AM   #22
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Do we know for sure pat isn't Cheney?
I'm beginning to wonder.



Hey Pat, ever shoot someone in the face accidently while hunting?
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Do we know for sure pat isn't Cheney?
Haha, I do.
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Old 10-22-2013, 09:42 AM   #24
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Well I must have missed out, because the 3 jobs I had prior all exempted my heart condition from coverage due to preexisting condition. Research is not free; however, the majority of it being contributed come from universities, grants and granted an occasional donor.

I know your purpose here is to try to wrap me up with a big thank you to DC, but that's not going to happen. Furthermore, I know not why you are exploring this. I stated as a heart patient he's inspirational but I dislike his politics. I'm having a hard time understanding why you're doing what you're doing.
Universities don't have money trees that they harvest to fund research. That money comes from someone who had money to begin with either directly or through the tax process.

I'm not sure why you had to go out of your way to swear at Dick Cheney when you've apparently been exposed to the reality that he's a great person.
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Old 10-22-2013, 10:52 AM   #25
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Universities don't have money trees that they harvest to fund research. That money comes from someone who had money to begin with either directly or through the tax process.

I'm not sure why you had to go out of your way to swear at Dick Cheney when you've apparently been exposed to the reality that he's a great person.
1) you apparantly haven't tuition in a minute. For shit's an giggles pitt state is building a multimillion dollar ampitheater that I pay for with money. Truth be told University's have 2 things in mind prestige and money. With prestige comes money. For example the creat a new life saving drug or a new procedure then they patent it and sell rights to use. Trust me every doctor in my profession is doing research, some insignificant but some more so, all to get published and prestige. If in their course of researching they find something of great benefit they will apply for a grant and then pimp out their research. Point being they make money to cover their costs and i would be willing to state that the funding from private donors is insignicant/


2) I didn't swear at cheney. as a man he is great with a phenominal story to tell; however, his political view make me want to stick a roll of barbed wire up my ass.
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1) you apparantly haven't tuition in a minute. For shit's an giggles pitt state is building a multimillion dollar ampitheater that I pay for with money. Truth be told University's have 2 things in mind prestige and money. With prestige comes money. For example the creat a new life saving drug or a new procedure then they patent it and sell rights to use. Trust me every doctor in my profession is doing research, some insignificant but some more so, all to get published and prestige. If in their course of researching they find something of great benefit they will apply for a grant and then pimp out their research. Point being they make money to cover their costs and i would be willing to state that the funding from private donors is insignicant/
They make money from people who have money not out of thin air. This really isn't as hard to understand as you're making it.


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2) I didn't swear at cheney. as a man he is great with a phenominal story to tell; however, his political view make me want to stick a roll of barbed wire up my ass.
I consider "**** Cheney" swearing. Cheney is a great man, period.
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