General Politics The EPA and Environmental Laws SUCK!!!

Amnorix · 10-21-2013, 01:43 PM

Over the years I've seen a number of threads and posts hating on the EPA and environmental regulations. Many seem to think that they are expensive and unnecessary burdens to the corporate world which would self-regulate. They ignore, of course, little things in our history like the Cuyahoga River in Cleveland actually catching on fire due to excessive pollution.

But if anyone needs another example of why it might not be best to let companies decide these things for themselves, they only need to look at what is going on in China these days.

http://world.time.com/2013/10/21/kid...ity/?hpt=hp_t3

A woman wearing a mask walk through a street covered by dense smog in Harbin, northern China, Oct. 21, 2013.

Pitt Gorilla · 10-21-2013, 01:47 PM

Yeah, but, more smog=more corporate money. You=socialist Obama atheist.

jiveturkey · 10-21-2013, 01:49 PM

FishingRod · 10-21-2013, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Yeah, but, more smog=more corporate money. You=socialist Obama atheist.

Isn't China a Communist country

**LiveSteam** · 10-21-2013, 01:52 PM

I have had the EPA threaten me a few times over my masonry mixer. I have asked many Masonry SUB-Contractors,& I'm the only contractor that I know of ,that has had this problem in Omaha. Somewhere along the road I pissed someone off. Imagine that

Fish · 10-21-2013, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jiveturkey

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HonestChieffan · 10-21-2013, 04:03 PM

Look at what your boy obama is doing here. **** china.

**CrazyPhuD** · 10-21-2013, 04:23 PM

**** the EPA...I just bought a controlling interest in Perri-Air!

**Buehler445** · 10-21-2013, 09:04 PM

The ****ing EPA tired to ****ing fine us for dust. They called them particulates, but they really tried. **** that in the face.

EPA, like unions and OSHA have gone too far.

notorious · 10-21-2013, 09:19 PM

That's what scares me.

The entire world could clean up their act but China will keep pumping out nasty shit.

Taco John · 10-21-2013, 10:55 PM

A totalitarian government allows its industry to pollute the air freely without repercussion, and capitalism takes the blame. This is a problem with government, not with capitalism.

In a free market system, there is a respect for property rights. Nobody has the right to pollute the air or the water, or property that they don't own - except when governments give them those rights. This pollution isn't a problem of capitalism. It's a problem of government.

Rausch · 10-22-2013, 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taco John

A totalitarian government allows its industry to pollute the air freely without repercussion, and capitalism takes the blame. This is a problem with government, not with capitalism.

In a free market system, there is a respect for property rights. Nobody has the right to pollute the air or the water, or property that they don't own - except when governments give them those rights. This pollution isn't a problem of capitalism. It's a problem of government.

+1...

blaise · 10-22-2013, 05:30 AM

I don't know too many people that think factories should be unregulated. That doesn't mean some proposed environmental regulations couldn't be too restrictive and unnecessary.

Radar Chief · 10-22-2013, 07:08 AM

And this is news to you Amno? Because I and a few others have been trying to tell you for years what polluting pigs China is, which is why I was never good with the Kyoto Protocol.

Radar Chief · 10-22-2013, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris616

I'm pretty sure most of the reason we have the rare metals we need NOW for bigger better faster more is because China is willing to do what it takes to rise to the top of the crapper. One day all hell will break loose and there wont be anyone to come to their aid . How sturdy is the Three Gorges dam really ?

They’ve got an apartment building that just fell over.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-collapse.html

10-21-2013, 01:43 PM
Amnorix In BB I trust Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boston, Mass. Casino cash: $207322	The EPA and Environmental Laws SUCK!!! Over the years I've seen a number of threads and posts hating on the EPA and environmental regulations. Many seem to think that they are expensive and unnecessary burdens to the corporate world which would self-regulate. They ignore, of course, little things in our history like the Cuyahoga River in Cleveland actually catching on fire due to excessive pollution. But if anyone needs another example of why it might not be best to let companies decide these things for themselves, they only need to look at what is going on in China these days. http://world.time.com/2013/10/21/kid...ity/?hpt=hp_t3 A woman wearing a mask walk through a street covered by dense smog in Harbin, northern China, Oct. 21, 2013.
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Taco John 12on Paul Join Date: Jun 2001 Casino cash: $10094912	A totalitarian government allows its industry to pollute the air freely without repercussion, and capitalism takes the blame. This is a problem with government, not with capitalism. In a free market system, there is a respect for property rights. Nobody has the right to pollute the air or the water, or property that they don't own - except when governments give them those rights. This pollution isn't a problem of capitalism. It's a problem of government. __________________ Ehyeh asher ehyeh.
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