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Old 10-23-2013, 07:21 PM  
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Delay: Obama set to unsheath and hand Ted Cruz the ACA Mandate Sword

The Obama administration will delay enforcement of the Affordable Care Act’s health insurance mandate, extending how long Americans may go uninsured before facing a penalty under the law, MarketWatch has learned.

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Old 10-24-2013, 04:15 PM   #31
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Old 10-24-2013, 04:52 PM   #32
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Old 10-24-2013, 06:36 PM   #33
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Guess who was also fringe in their day? Our revolutionary patriots. The starters weren't the vast majority either. They were consider rogues and radicals. We're in good company.

Mainstream=uninspired, conventional and status quo drones who don't think
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Old 10-24-2013, 06:56 PM   #34
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Yup! The NeoCons are going beserk because Americans stopped us going into Syria by lighting up the switchboards not to. Seems Ron Paul's ideas did have influence. Even their allies the Saudis are pissed. Not to mention their covert ally Bibi. At least Obama listened to the people on this. It's the Bush FP that was destructive but parts of Obama's like his drone war creating another generation of jihadist terrorists and bombing of Libya were just like that of Bush.
It doesn't surprise me that you think we're better off pissing off our allies and naively appeasing our enemies.
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Old 10-24-2013, 08:23 PM   #35
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The tea baggers aren't mainstream. Everyone you champion is a fringe idiot. Ron Paul, Rand Paul, and now Ted Cruz. You are delusional if you think you are mainstream.
They are becoming more mainstream everyday. Well, at least their idea of what the government should be spending money on is.
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Old 10-24-2013, 08:33 PM   #36
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Meanwhile, polls have consistently showed a large majority think our govt is trying to do too much.

What was once considered "fringe" is in power. They're still fringe though.
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Old 10-24-2013, 08:35 PM   #37
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It doesn't surprise me that you think we're better off pissing off our allies and naively appeasing our enemies.
Syria is not our enemy. Nor is Iran. They're only enemies to some factions. It's really just a fabrication for most of us. And nobody is appeasing anybody here either. That exists in the minds of a certain faction, who seem to see enemies all around. Kinda like how some people see Martians.
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Old 10-24-2013, 09:27 PM   #38
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Syria is not our enemy. Nor is Iran. They're only enemies to some factions. It's really just a fabrication for most of us. And nobody is appeasing anybody here either. That exists in the minds of a certain faction, who seem to see enemies all around. Kinda like how some people see Martians.
Uh, no.
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Old 10-25-2013, 11:51 AM   #39
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Uh, no.
Not in the sense they'd drop a bomb on us or invade. Not liking us is another category of thing.

But they don't have to be. Remember we were behind them being tortured by their govt we put in power at one time. How would you feel if that was done to you? It's up to us to change our reactions to them. It's up to Israel to deal with them on their own.
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Old 10-25-2013, 11:57 AM   #40
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Here's a picture of Iran not being an enemy of the US:

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Old 10-25-2013, 12:04 PM   #41
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That wasn't Iran, it was the work of terrorism. By the way, terrorism doesn't exist, except when we deserve it.
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Old 10-25-2013, 12:07 PM   #42
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That wasn't Iran, it was the work of terrorism. By the way, terrorism doesn't exist, except when we deserve it.
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Old 10-25-2013, 12:08 PM   #43
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Back to the lecture at hand, I was agape at the sound clips from yesterday's hearings.

People testifying that no, the website was never tested at all. That they freely admitted needing months to test a site of this magnitude and did zero testing.

I thought it was funny when Kathleen Seblojevich said she would have liked to have 5 years. The wheels of government grind slowly, indeed.
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Old 10-25-2013, 12:29 PM   #44
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That wasn't Iran, it was the work of terrorism. By the way, terrorism doesn't exist, except when we deserve it.
No, that's retaliation for our being over there on their lands with military installations. Khobar Towers was used as quarters for foreign military personnel at that time. That also disqualfies that as an act of terrorism. It's an act of retaliation.

Neither patteeu or you, look at causes that precede such acts and completely disregard any actions by our own govt over there. This includes toppling their elected leader in the 1950's for BP oil interests, who had a British mercantilist-setup in Iran. The putting in the Shah who had a secret police that tortured their people, such as dissidents with our CIA helping in that torture. It's a law of Newtonian motion which is a natural law to get such reactions. These things DO NOT happen in a vacuum.

Instead we get the same ole' victim mentality that you call the left out for on domestic issues. Poor me...look what they did to me. No responsibility cases do that.
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