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Old 10-24-2013, 09:07 AM  
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Nancy Salgado, who has worked at a Chicago McDonald's for 10 years and makes $8.25 an hour, asked the McResource representative a number of questions related to getting assistance to pay for her heating bill, her groceries and her sister's medical expenses. Salgado told the representative that she was recording the call for her sister.

The helpline operator never asked Salgado how much she made per hour, and how many hours per week she worked beyond the fact that she was a full-time employee. But she said that Salgado "definitely should be able to qualify for both food stamps and heating assistance."

The representative then pointed her toward a number of resources in Chicago, such as food pantries and a program that would help cover some of her heating bill. She said she would email her specific phone numbers and programs.

The operator also explained that the McResource line is available to help McDonald's workers who need help navigating the process of getting public assistance. The helpline's phone number is posted in fliers at many McDonald's locations.
Nice of McDonalds to help get its employees on the gov't teet.

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Old 11-06-2013, 10:32 AM   #481
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What LoneWorkersParty wants is communism, but he won't admit it, so I'll just shoot some holes in his ideas.
"LoneWorkersParty?" What a great name for him and his ideology.
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Old 11-06-2013, 11:26 AM   #482
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What LoneWorkersParty wants is communism, but he won't admit it, so I'll just shoot some holes in his ideas. Communism doesn't work, because it provides no incentives, or motivation for people to work hard, and advance themselves, with everyone being paid the same. This in return kills production, since people will see it doesn't pay to work hard when everyone is paid the same, regardless of job performance. LoneWorkersParty's ideas may look good to some on paper, but these practices have failed time, and time again. His liberal/communist ideas have been proven to fail, and if he can't see that, then maybe he needs a refresher course on history. Look what happened to the USSR, and East Germany. LoneWorkersParty is ill educated, and informed, just like many in communist countries have been in the past, not to mention how the same applies to the liberals in the USA, right now. How many times do people need to point out the failures with your kind of thinking, only to have you ignore it, or twist it into something that they didn't say? If you continue to ignore history, and the poor performance of your ideas, then you are truly dumber than a sack of hammers.
I got through this entire wall of text and you didn't even shoot holes in anything. It's just talking points most likely copied and pasted from a text book. All that work on my part for nothing.
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Old 11-06-2013, 11:52 AM   #483
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I got through this entire wall of text and you didn't even shoot holes in anything. It's just talking points most likely copied and pasted from a text book. All that work on my part for nothing.

Do yourself, and all of us a favor, and go study history. You are continuing to prove how poorly educated, and ill-informed you really are.
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Old 11-06-2013, 11:53 AM   #484
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Do yourself, and all of us a favor, and go study history. You are continuing to prove how poorly educated, and ill-informed you really are.
And you continue to demonstrate that you have no idea of what communism really is. A hike in the minimum wage isn't even close to being communism.
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Old 11-06-2013, 11:59 AM   #485
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I have been saying the opposite all along. You literally have incredibly bad reading comprehension skills and are economically illiterate.
I never said they were free market, stupid.

And No, you didn't say they (Mercantilism and Corporatism) are different. You clumped them all together. Only after I articulated the extreme difference in the policies do you actually acknowledge them.

You defiantly don't know what corporatism means if you think it is anywhere close to Mercantilism. Mercantilism is only adopted by new entries into the global economy in order to grow infant industries until there are the same level as current industries. It is adopted to help developing nations grow their own companies. That is the history of Mercantilism.

Mercantilism is to protect companies that cannot compete globally until they can compete, while Corporatism is established companies using their influence to pervert government and the market. Their goals are completely different.

One is the government working to protect local industry against international competition to grow them, the other is industry corrupting government for their own benefit.

See, a corporate Fascists like yourself are in favor of Corporations underpaying employees they make a profit off of because Corporations can pervert the social safety net to include full time workers.

You are a corporate Fascist because you believe in Privatize the Profits, socialize the losses.

Please explain to me what is free market about offloading the cost of labor onto the government rather then the company and the consumer paying for it?
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Old 11-06-2013, 12:00 PM   #486
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There you go again, saying things I DID NOT say. Typical liberal tactic.
#1 is pure BS, because I never said that. #2, it doesn't matter whether we give them government money, or money from out pockets. Either way the consumer/everyday Joe is going to pay for it.

I want every American would who gets up and goes to work everyday to be able to support themselves, regardless of job.
That was your quote, and you've been told several times that shit has changed, and the majority of it has changed, because of the stupid liberal policies that started being implemented 60 years ago. You want to double minimum wage, but don't want to face the fact that it's the policies of people like you in government, that has made it so it's difficult to live on minimum wage. You can't see this, or will not accept it. That's your problem, and nobody else's.

So, people should go to jobs that cannot support them?

Or jobs shouldn't support people?

Again, do you want the government to support these people then?
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I am laissez-faire.


No, you are not.

You continually support Corporate freedom over personal freedom.

You support companies offloading their own costs onto the government.

And you never acknowledged the data I provided that showed a mother of two kids could work a minimum wage job and support themselves without government assistance.
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And you continue to demonstrate that you have no idea of what communism really is.
Also how to write a proper sentence and how to create paragraphs.
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Do yourself, and all of us a favor, and go study history. You are continuing to prove how poorly educated, and ill-informed you really are.
How about you actually specific what liberal policies you are talking about, analysis how they have failed this country, and offer your own view on how to fix it.

Or continue nonsensical rants.

I think I know what you will choose.
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"LoneWorkersParty?" What a great name for him and his ideology.


You are right, many of these posters are poorly informed/educated on many of these subjects.
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You are right, many of these posters are poorly informed/educated on many of these subjects.
Well, the colleges are dumbing down economically, especially if they major in certain subjects. You shoulda' seen what my daughter's college roomate had in her social work textbook. Poor economic nonsense. It stated that the reason people are falling more into poverty is because social programs were cut under Reagan.

That and they're being indoctrinated in Marxism--without calling it that or socialism. Socialists in denial.
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No, you are not.

You continually support Corporate freedom over personal freedom.

You support companies offloading their own costs onto the government.

And you never acknowledged the data I provided that showed a mother of two kids could work a minimum wage job and support themselves without government assistance.
Well laissez-faire means market freedom for everyone including corporations. But that's not corporatism or fascism. You are ignorant on what constitutes a free market or laissez-faire if you equate the two as the same. Since, I don't support any corporate subsidies (which corporatism does) or special favors and say the market will work things out that makes my views laissez-faire. You support special favors courtesy of govt --just to a different group of people in order to lift them up and be exempt from market conditions. That falls under Marxism and fascism.

I have no need to acknowledge your data about a mother for my position. You think that way. I don't. So why should I acknowledge it LoneWorkersParty? I don't have to.
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So, people should go to jobs that cannot support them?

Or jobs shouldn't support people?
Jobs that don't support people are not jobs worth taking unless they are dependents.



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Again, do you want the government to support these people then?
You have to actually ask this of him? Is your reading that bad? I think so.

Again, your coercian of a private enterprise to pay a certain wage is fascist and socialist.
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No, you are not.
Coming from you this doesn't mean anything--except in your own mind.

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You continually support Corporate freedom over personal freedom.
This topic is not even about personal freedom which is social issues.

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Where did I say that? Nowhere. That's just your opinion.


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So
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I never said they were free market, stupid.
Doesn't matter because I didn't say you did. I was pointing it out because Marx thought it was capitalism back in his day.

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And No, you didn't say they (Mercantilism and Corporatism) are different. You clumped them all together. Only after I articulated the extreme difference in the policies do you actually acknowledge them.
No, I categorized them according to a specific criteria--that they rely on govt management or control. I said they had different ways of doing it. That's where you have reading comprehension EPIC FAILURE.

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You defiantly don't know what corporatism means if you think it is anywhere close to Mercantilism. Mercantilism is only adopted by new entries into the global economy in order to grow infant industries until there are the same level as current industries. It is adopted to help developing nations grow their own companies. That is the history of Mercantilism.
Oh I do. You have it skewed because I mentioned there were some differences. Today's corporatism works as the new mercantilism as its replacement. Also dubbed as Neo Mercantilism. They both grant special privileges, favors and subsidies to politically connected businesses/corporations. Just because it's done differently is irrelevant to my pont.

What do you think the fake free-trade agreements really are in substance but not in name? They are corporatist with socialism for their losses and capitalism for profits and they have protectionism in them too.

You defiantly are not comprehending my point.

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Mercantilism is to protect companies that cannot compete globally until they can compete, while Corporatism is established companies using their influence to pervert government and the market. Their goals are completely different.
Irrelevant to my point. You allow companies that can't compete at first govt protection which is using political influence for their benefit and interests. That is also a perversion of the market. ( as it you even know what that means and it probably subjective based on your not liking the outcomes per your opinion) I see your argument is based in who you feel sorry for more than any knowledge of economics. You're still missing my point though. Have you tried a course in logic or Hooked on Phonics yet?

One is the government working to protect local industry against international competition to grow them, the other is industry corrupting government for their own benefit.

See, a corporate Fascists like yourself are in favor of Corporations underpaying employees they make a profit off of because Corporations can pervert the social safety net to include full time workers.

You are a corporate Fascist because you believe in Privatize the Profits, socialize the losses.

Please explain to me what is free market about offloading the cost of labor onto the government rather then the company and the consumer paying for it?[/quote]
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