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Report: Iran may be month from a bomb

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/w...-away/3181373/

Iran could produce enough weapons-grade uranium to build a nuclear bomb in as little as a month, according to a new estimate by one of the USA's top nuclear experts.

The new assessment comes as the White House invited Senate staffers to a briefing on negotiations with Iran as it is trying to persuade Congress not to go ahead with a bill to stiffen sanctions against Iran.

"Shortening breakout times have implications for any negotiation with Iran," stated the report by the Institute for Science and International Security. "An essential finding is that they are currently too short and shortening further."

David Albright, president of the institute and a former inspector for the U.N. International Atomic Energy Agency, said the estimate means that Iran would have to eliminate more than half of its 19,000 centrifuges to extend the time it would take to build a bomb to six months.

The Obama administration has said Iran is probably a year away from having enough enriched uranium to make a bomb.

Bernadette Meehan, an NSC spokeswoman for President Obama's National Security Council, said the intelligence community maintains "a number of assessments" regarding potential time frames for Iran to produce enough weapons-grade uranium for one weapon or a testable nuclear device.hi

"We continue to closely monitor the Iranian nuclear program and its stockpile of enriched uranium," Meehan said.

World powers are seeking an agreement "that ultimately resolves all of the international community's concerns about Iran's nuclear program," she said. "The ultimate goal is a comprehensive agreement that is credible, transparent, and verifiable."

In the report, Albright said negotiations with Iran should focus on so-called "breakout" times, or the time required to convert low-enriched uranium to weapons-grade.

Albright, who has testified before Congress, said the negotiators should try to find ways to lengthen the breakout times and shorten the time that inspectors could detect breakout. ISIS' analysis is based on the latest Iranian and United Nations reports on Iran's centrifuge equipment for producing nuclear fuel and its nuclear fuel stockpiles.

Iran's stockpile of medium-enriched uranium has nearly doubled in a year's time and its number of centrifuges has expanded from 12,000 in 2012 to 19,000 today.

Sen. Mark Kirk, an Illinois Republican whose Senate Banking Committee is considering legislation to tighten Iran sanctions, said the report shows that Iran is expanding its nuclear capabilities under the cover of negotiations.

"The Senate should move forward immediately with a new round of sanctions to prevent Iran from acquiring an undetectable breakout capability," he said.

The White House has said new sanctions legislation should wait while current negotiations — scheduled to resume officially in Geneva next month — are moving forward.

The White House said Thursday it will continue consulting with Congress "so that any congressional action is aligned with our negotiating strategy as we move forward," said Caitlin Hayden, a spokeswoman for President Obama's National Security Council.

Iranian President Hassan Rouhani has said his country has no interest in nuclear weapons but that producing nuclear fuel is Iran's right. His foreign minister, Javad Zarif, has said Iran will not ship its nuclear stockpile to a third country.

However, Iran has blocked international inspectors from some suspected nuclear facilities to verify they are being used for peaceful purposes, access required under international agreements it has signed.

United Nations inspectors have found evidence of a weapons program in violation of Iran's commitment under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. The USA and the U.N. Security Council have implemented crippling economic sanctions on Iran to sway it to take steps to assure the world it is not developing a bomb.

Israel, which sees an Iranian nuclear bomb as a threat to its very existence, has said it will take military action to prevent Iran from getting a bomb.

ISIS estimated in October 2012 that Iran could produce enough highly-enriched uranium for a bomb within two to four months. The new estimate is based on an analysis of the latest reports by Iran and the the IAEA.

ISIS considered various scenarios, including if Iran decided to build a covert enrichment plant like it has under a mountain in Fordow, near the city of Qom, that was designed for optimal efficiency and minimal time to enrich enough uranium for bomb making. Such a facility built with current Iranian technology could produce enough material for a bomb in a week, according to the ISIS report.

"If they did that and they were caught it would be a smoking gun of a nuclear weapons program," Albright said.

If Iran moves ahead with installation of its more efficient, second generation centrifuges, it would be able to produce enough nuclear fuel for a bomb with so few of them, between 2,000 and 3,300 centrifuges, that they could fit in a small warehouse, Albright said.
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Old 10-30-2013, 11:13 AM   #166
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This is the same shit, different day. It will happen eventually. Here's an article from 10 years ago. Are they closer now then they were 10 years ago, of course. This is like trying to stop a glacier from melting by pointing a bunch of AC's at it. Eventually the damn thing is gonna melt.

http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/me.../26/iran.iaea/
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Inspectors report finding particles at the Natanz nuclear facility that contain a higher percentage of enriched uranium than is needed for a civilian power program, said Mark Gwozdecky, a spokesman for the International Atomic Energy Agency in Vienna. But Iranian officials have told the agency those traces came from equipment imported from another country, he said.

Now there was a bold-faced lie. Now we know, and Iran admits, that it is enriching beyond LEU levels.
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Old 10-30-2013, 11:14 AM   #167
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IAEA has been taken over by NeoCon plants to do their bidding and lying.
Please feel free to list the lies that IAEA is providing, and we'll take them one by one, okay?
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Old 10-30-2013, 11:15 AM   #168
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Inspectors report finding particles at the Natanz nuclear facility that contain a higher percentage of enriched uranium than is needed for a civilian power program, said Mark Gwozdecky, a spokesman for the International Atomic Energy Agency in Vienna. But Iranian officials have told the agency those traces came from equipment imported from another country, he said.

Now there was a bold-faced lie. Now we know, and Iran admits, that it is enriching beyond LEU levels.
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Old 10-30-2013, 11:19 AM   #169
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Why is that boring to you? You don't care when Iran lies about their nuclear program or something?
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Old 10-30-2013, 11:31 AM   #170
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Some of us care more about the lies coming out of DC. Ever notice how Iran does exactly what the US wants it to do and say in order for DC and Israel to push for military action against it ? Do you know how Iran got to where it is now ? The US backed Saddam's war with them and then they rebuilt upon the experience they got from that war. Through the US aiding Saddam Iran is now what it is. Follow the money .
You think the US government wants Iran to become nuclear-armed?
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Old 10-30-2013, 11:35 AM   #171
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How would Donger know if Iran is lying when he can't prove they're making a bomb?
There's no way to really verify this since the inspection process is not set up to do so.

How could anyone believe the Donger/NeoCon/Tories of the world when Iran is the country that signed a non nuke weapon treaty which Israel won't even bother to sign; when they haven't started a conventional war in over 200 years; when they prefer to use human terrorism via a proxy war in Israel--not in the US itself and if they did then how come we don't fight their terrorism instead?; why when Donger trusts Bibi ( a known liar and warmonger) and his fellow traveler NeoCons in the US who lied before and even believe in using what they call the "Noble Lie", both are countries that have substantial nuclear weapons capabilities--one of whom has used it before;and when the Saudi Royals ( controlled by Rockefeller who still has a lot of control over Saudi Aramco) is competition for Iran who they are jealous of.


This is pure conjecture and speculation based on the idea of not liking a country for other reasons as well as being guilty of what they accuse Iran of. It's mushroom clouds and Nigerian yellow-cake all over again.
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How would Donger know if Iran is lying when he can't prove they're making a bomb?
There's no way to really verify this since the inspection process is not set up to do so.

How could anyone believe the Donger/NeoCon/Tories of the world when Iran is the country that signed a non nuke weapon treaty which Israel won't even bother to sign; when they haven't started a conventional war in over 200 years; when they prefer to use human terrorism via a proxy war in Israel--not in the US itself and if they did then how come we don't fight their terrorism instead?; why when Donger trusts Bibi ( a known liar and warmonger) and his fellow traveler NeoCons in the US who lied before and even believe in using what they call the "Noble Lie", both are countries that have substantial nuclear weapons capabilities--one of whom has used it before;and when the Saudi Royals ( controlled by Rockefeller who still has a lot of control over Saudi Aramco) is competition for Iran who they are jealous of.


This is pure conjecture and speculation based on the idea of not liking a country for other reasons as well as being guilty of what they accuse Iran of. It's mushroom clouds and Nigerian yellow-cake all over again.
Errr, please read the quote again from 2003. They were enriching back then beyond LEU and claimed that it came from somewhere else. They just got caught and made up a story/lie to cover it. They now openly and proudly admit to enriching to 20%

Or, do you dispute that Iran has been and is enriching beyond LEU?

Do I KNOW that they are working on a physics package? No, I don't. Do I know that they are taking ALL the steps necessary to build one? Yes, I do.
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Old 10-30-2013, 12:09 PM   #173
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Errr, please read the quote again from 2003. They were enriching back then beyond LEU and claimed that it came from somewhere else. They just got caught and made up a story/lie to cover it. They now openly and proudly admit to enriching to 20%

Or, do you dispute that Iran has been and is enriching beyond LEU?

Do I KNOW that they are working on a physics package? No, I don't. Do I know that they are taking ALL the steps necessary to build one? Yes, I do.
So 20% for Medical Isotopes? not scurred.
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So 20% for Medical Isotopes? not scurred.
That's what they claim now, yes. That's after they claimed they weren't going beyond LEU. So, they lied. Simple as that.

Iran was offered the option of others providing them with 20% which couldn't be enriched further. They refused.
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Yes and it is a puppet show and all one need do is follow the money and study enough of the history of Iran since say 1900 . ITs all the cause and effect and Iran never had the ability to initiate hostilities tawards teh west and the US. Did the US want AL Quaeda Armed with surface to air missiles ? How about WMD like Chemical weapons ? What do you really think the US governement wants ? I know more about what Iran wants than I do in detail what the US Government wants other than complete control over everyone in the US if not the World.

If you covet another persons home , and do everything you can to annex it for your own interests and if you have the manpower and resources , how do you go about doing it in a way that looks justifiable ? You dont provike them in order to get them to file a law suit. You want them to fight back so you can squash them.
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Alrighty then.
Someone must have turned the batshit crazy signal on.
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And any one that resonates with what I am saying deserves to be belittled right ? The problem lies in What is True and What is False , no one wants to admit they pick and chose according to their taste pallet. How rewarding is it to maintain your ground while basically wanting to own all dissenting opinion captive ? Then you look behind you , to the right and to the left and suddenly realize ...........

I suspect those who resonate with me spend more time looking at what Drones and stuff are really doing to the people overseas

than folks here who are obessed about the economy and Obamacare . The US knows only one way out of a bind and that is to start another war. To those of us who have no stomach for more war we are Bat Shit Crazy.
You use a lot of words, but honestly, you don't really say very much.

Does our government want al Qaeda armed with MANPADs? No.

Does our government want al Qaeda armed with chemical weapons? No.

Why on Earth would you even begin to think that our government wants that?
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And any one that resonates with what I am saying deserves to be belittled right ? The problem lies in What is True and What is False , no one wants to admit they pick and chose according to their taste pallet. How rewarding is it to maintain your ground while basically wanting to own all dissenting opinion captive ? Then you look behind you , to the right and to the left and suddenly realize ...........

I suspect those who resonate with me spend more time looking at what Drones and stuff are really doing to the people overseas

than folks here who are obessed about the economy and Obamacare . The US knows only one way out of a bind and that is to start another war. To those of us who have no stomach for more war we are Bat Shit Crazy.
Well at least we can find something to agree on.
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You like simple answers and then when people say something as simple as The US Governement is built on Lies. Its too simple right ? If you want to talk about a lot of Verbage take a look at what the Governement turns out and passes.

Most people dont care who the US murders as long as they believe it serves them . Would you agree or disagree with this statement ?
I'll answer your questions, but I'd REALLY like to hear your logic about why you think:

1) Our government wants Iran to be nuclear-armed.

2) Why you think our government wants AQ to have MANPADs and chemical weapons.
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