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3-5 with Geno 18 8.41%
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Old 10-28-2013, 01:27 PM  
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Would you rather be 8-0 with Alex Smith or 3-5 with Geno?

Our offense is terrible with Alex Smith. It would likely be worse with Geno given his propensity to turn the ball over and give the other teams points through pick 6s and returned fumbles for TDs. So seeing as how we barely win with the offense we have now, we'd have likely lost more than a few games if we had Geno as our QB.

But would you rather take those growing pains with Geno, or be 8-0 with Alex and be in the driver seat toward a first round bye in the playoffs?
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Old 10-28-2013, 05:50 PM   #166
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AFCE (Smith vs Smith!), NFCN, and the "first place schedule" will more than likely be Cincy and Indy replacing Buffalo and Indy (even though they'll play Buffalo again anyway).
I think we play the NFCW
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Old 10-28-2013, 05:52 PM   #167
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I think we play the NFCW
Yeah, you're right... I was looking at 2011, but of course the NFC rotates every 4 years while the AFC rotates every 3... doh.
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Old 10-28-2013, 05:52 PM   #168
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I think we play the NFCW
NFC West AFC East and Cin or Balt Colts or Tenn
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Old 10-28-2013, 05:55 PM   #169
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Let's see how well old Alex does next season against a first-place schedule.

I'm guessing this team doesn't come close to 8-0 in 2014.
He didn't do too shabby with the Niner's schedule last season (at least through the first 8 1/4 games he played in before he suffered a concussion and subsequently lost his job).
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Old 10-28-2013, 06:03 PM   #170
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Let's see how well old Alex does next season against a first-place schedule.

I'm guessing this team doesn't come close to 8-0 in 2014.
You are really arguing next years schedule while we are 8-0?

That's pretty much a white flag. Good job Clay.
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Old 10-28-2013, 06:05 PM   #171
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7 voted for Geno and 3-5, that's pretty ****ed up.
Battered fan syndrome- they are scared to win I guess.
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Old 10-28-2013, 06:07 PM   #172
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Exactly. I sincerely don't get the OMGWTF reaction to the thought of a rookie QB sitting a season or two and assimilating what it takes to play in the league. Luck and RGIII have completely skewed the expectations of what rookie QB's should be able to do.
Yep RG#3 played like a champ yesterday until he faked a knee injury and they put cuz in to throw easy picks instead-lol
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Old 10-28-2013, 06:09 PM   #173
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You are really arguing next years schedule while we are 8-0?

That's pretty much a white flag. Good job Clay.
Clearly this year is a success, but likely not an ultimate success.

8-0 is soon forgotten if we go backwards.

And I will invoke the 2001 Bears as my example once again:

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...s/chi/2001.htm

We're winning games the same way that team won games. Limited QB, great defense, huge contributions from special teams and defense in scoring...and the next year they took a giant step backwards because they really weren't that good.
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Old 10-28-2013, 06:12 PM   #174
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Let's see how well old Alex does next season against a first-place schedule.
You, of 150,000+ posts on this forum, involved in football discussions for over 10 years, routinely acting like you're the smartest football poster on this board... seriously did not just post this.
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Clearly this year is a success, but likely not an ultimate success.

8-0 is soon forgotten if we go backwards.

And I will invoke the 2001 Bears as my example once again:

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...s/chi/2001.htm

We're winning games the same way that team won games. Limited QB, great defense, huge contributions from special teams and defense in scoring...and the next year they took a giant step backwards because they really weren't that good.
Yes the 2001 bears from 12 years ago are relevant.

The truth is Smith played closer to this in 2010 then improved in 2011 after more time with the same players and offense.

That's a better comparison. But keep searching for something that fits your scenarios.
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We wouldn't be 3-5 with Geno Smith. Probably more like 6-2 minimum.

Nonetheless, there are 20 QB's better than Alex Smith by my estimation.
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Yes the 2001 bears from 12 years ago are relevant.
We win games the same way they did.
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Old 10-28-2013, 06:31 PM   #179
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"Seeing as we barely win with the offense we have now" oh my fuking.... Would you rather it be "seeing as we almost always win with our offense" wtf we are winning games. The minute we put together a year where we don't go to the playoffs with Alex or we flat out look like garbage, call me. Till then just stfu with these threads.. I know I know ppl figured we woulda lost by now so they coulda screamed for the beheading of the qb but since we haven't be argument is clearly.. We barely win. It's better than losing.. And when playoffs come. In the 2 games that Alex had played in when it's playoffs he's been 500yds 5 tds 0 ints. 1 win 1 loss. Solid and clutch as fuk in the playoffs so if we win this way in regular season to get to the playoffs and then play way better in the playoffs to contend each year who gives a fuk???
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As for the question... I think a 3-5 record is harsh. I'd probably say 4 to 6 wins with Geno at this point. Him and Alex both have 10 TDs on the season. Geno has 12 more turnovers though. That's fairly significant. We actually lead the league at +12 in turnovers, Geno would wipe that out by himself. Obviously those numbers wouldn't be exactly the same if you switched teams, but Geno has still made some costly decisions that have nothing to do with the talent he's playing with. So it's probably not unfair to say at least 4-4.

However, this isn't in a vacuum. If you're going to treat it like one... Geno isn't the only QB we'll ever be able to draft. He wasn't even taken in the 1st round. If you were talking about someone like Andrew Luck, then it might be better long term to be 3-5 with him. But you could say that the Chiefs can go 8-0 now and still acquire a similar talent in the late 1st round of the upcoming draft. Unless you believe that none of the QB's in the next 2-3 drafts are anywhere near Geno Smith, and you think Geno is an Andrew Luck type talent.
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