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3-5 with Geno 18 8.41%
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Old 10-28-2013, 01:27 PM  
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Would you rather be 8-0 with Alex Smith or 3-5 with Geno?

Our offense is terrible with Alex Smith. It would likely be worse with Geno given his propensity to turn the ball over and give the other teams points through pick 6s and returned fumbles for TDs. So seeing as how we barely win with the offense we have now, we'd have likely lost more than a few games if we had Geno as our QB.

But would you rather take those growing pains with Geno, or be 8-0 with Alex and be in the driver seat toward a first round bye in the playoffs?
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Old 10-29-2013, 06:17 AM   #241
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Actually, if the 2nd round pick hadn't been traded for recyled reject #17, Geno would have been there. They still could have used the 1.1 on the SAFE PICK, Eric Fisher.

But don't let the facts get in your WAY Halfcan.
Actually you can't really say that with validity. If the Chiefs still had that pick it could have changed the draft mentality of all the teams. You can't say that with total surety anymore than I can say that he wouldn't have been there.
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Old 10-29-2013, 06:27 AM   #242
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Did someone actually say they would rather be 3-5? Anyone that thinks this team would be 3-5 with Geno, and Alex Smith is the difference between 3-5 and 8-0 IS BATSHIT CRAZY.
Well, yeah, 15 people have responded to the poll and said they WOULD rather be 3-5 with Geno.

Add 16 turnovers, and it's entirely possible that the Chiefs would be 3-5. Only the most loyal Geno ballwashers don't understand that.
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Old 10-29-2013, 06:59 AM   #243
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Well, yeah, 15 people have responded to the poll and said they WOULD rather be 3-5 with Geno.

Add 16 turnovers, and it's entirely possible that the Chiefs would be 3-5. Only the most loyal Geno ballwashers don't understand that.
I picked 3-5, but I really don't believe that would be the record. I think it's probably 6-2 and he doesn't turn the ball over as much here.

I picked Geno because in the end I think Geno will be a top 10-12 QB in the NFL for a decade, so in the big picture view I picked having a top level QB for a decade over an 8-0 start to a season with possibly 1 playoff win. So yeah give me the QB to build around over a good regular season for 1 year.

Of course that's always been the problem with Chiefs fans as this poll clearly shows. They love that short term gratification of regular season wins over the few years of growing pains developing a QB that can take them to the next level down the line.

I also don't think it's just a "Geno" thing. I'm sure the poll would yield similar results if the questions was "Would you rather be 2-5(like the Redskins) with RG3 or would you rather be 8-0?"

FWIW I'd also rather be 3-5 with Tyler Bray gaining experience knowing the payoff could be huge for the next 10-15 years.
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I'm speechless at the absolute stupidity.

You do understand, that just because we didn't take Geno Smith, have Alex Smith currently means absolutely nothing for quarterback evaluation in future drafts right?

Wow. People would rather be 3-5 with their guy as opposed to 8-0 without. That right there tells you how ****ing batshit crazy some of you are.



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I picked 3-5, but I really don't believe that would be the record. I think it's probably 6-2 and he doesn't turn the ball over as much here.

I picked Geno because in the end I think Geno will be a top 10-12 QB in the NFL for a decade, so in the big picture view I picked having a top level QB for a decade over an 8-0 start to a season with possibly 1 playoff win. So yeah give me the QB to build around over a good regular season for 1 year.

Of course that's always been the problem with Chiefs fans as this poll clearly shows. They love that short term gratification of regular season wins over the few years of growing pains developing a QB that can take them to the next level down the line.
Believe it or not, we are not as far apart as you might think. I wanted the Chiefs to draft Geno, but I am fine with Andy Reid making his own decision. At 8-0, Reid is clearly better at picking a quarterback than Pioli/Haley/Crennel were. Geno has played well enough this year that I wish he were on the Chiefs roster as QBOTF, and it could have easily happened. I do think Alex Smith was a good choice to bring immediate stability to a 2-14 team, and I disagree with your position that the Chiefs would be 6-2 with Geno. But, like probably everyone else right now, I sure do wish they had drafted Geno instead of Eric Fischer, and put him on the bench to learn behind Alex Smith.
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8-0 with Alex Smith and Tyler Bray learning from the sidelines is a thousand times better than whatever record Geno Smith would have with us this year. Alex gets the lead every week in the first half and then gets very conservative with his throws and lets the defense dominate and force mistakes. That's a winning formula. Sure he could take chances in the second half of games to extend the lead but why would he. Andy and Alex plus this defense will break our string of 1st round playoff losses this year.
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8-0 with Alex Smith and Tyler Bray learning from the sidelines is a thousand times better than whatever record Geno Smith would have with us this year. Alex gets the lead every week in the first half and then gets very conservative with his throws and lets the defense dominate and force mistakes. That's a winning formula. Sure he could take chances in the second half of games to extend the lead but why would he. Andy and Alex plus this defense will break our string of 1st round playoff losses this year.
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It's not a strategy. Reid likes short passes and YAC. Pretty soon, that lead will no longer be good for a half.
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Of course that's always been the problem with Chiefs fans as this poll clearly shows. They love that short term gratification of regular season wins over the few years of growing pains developing a QB that can take them to the next level down the line.
Your a idiot. Get me Andrew luck and I will take the growing pains as they come. Give Andy Reid and company more than just one draft before u think our new regime will never look at drafting a qb again. They just traded for Alex they weren't going to draft a qb in the early rounds again like the 49ers and say we brought u in to be a stop gap.
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Well, yeah, 15 people have responded to the poll and said they WOULD rather be 3-5 with Geno.

Add 16 turnovers, and it's entirely possible that the Chiefs would be 3-5. Only the most loyal Geno ballwashers don't understand that.
If we have to add the 16 turnovers (Geno trying to catch up) can we also add the 8 TDs that Duane Bowe would have by now?

See, we have no way of knowing how would have turned out, but it is fun to discuss. I love being 8-0, we have been here before. But there is no way I am going to allow myself to get as high about it as I used to. It was a long hard fall after 95, 97 and 03. If they win a playoff game there is nobody going to be any happier about it than me.

Also, I still don't believe for a minute that Andy Reid was allowed to draft a QB and I stand by that. The record is what it is, no 1st round QB drafted in 30 years, with an endless trail of reasons.
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Did someone actually say they would rather be 3-5? Anyone that thinks this team would be 3-5 with Geno, and Alex Smith is the difference between 3-5 and 8-0 IS BATSHIT CRAZY.
That is what the poll is asking. If you picked the Geno answer then you would rather be 3-5 right now instead of 8-0.
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Your a idiot. Get me Andrew luck and I will take the growing pains as they come. Give Andy Reid and company more than just one draft before u think our new regime will never look at drafting a qb again. They just traded for Alex they weren't going to draft a qb in the early rounds again like the 49ers and say we brought u in to be a stop gap.
I'll be shocked if they cut bait after paying 2 2nds, but I'll wait to see if he gets extended this year before I flip my shit. However, we now will have 1 pick at the back end of this years draft and no 2nd pick. That's not exactly a lot of ammo to go get "Their Guy" assuming they don't feel Bray is ready to take the reigns next year.
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That is what the poll is asking. If you picked the Geno answer then you would rather be 3-5 right now instead of 8-0.
Actually I didn't vote in the poll, as I stated in my first post in this thread I don't agree with the 3-5 scenario at all. But is however a worthwhile discussion.
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I'll be shocked if they cut bait after paying 2 2nds, but I'll wait to see if he gets extended this year before I flip my shit. However, we now will have 1 pick at the back end of this years draft and no 2nd pick. That's not exactly a lot of ammo to go get "Their Guy" assuming they don't feel Bray is ready to take the reigns next year.
Exactly, and that was the excuse for entire Marty era, as they were always drafting too late to get a QB. In the last few years, this team has picked 3rd, 5th twice, 11th and 1st overall and didn't take a QB.

On the other hand, the team is on their 4th 49ers QB among the very long list of others during that time frame.

Anyone that believes that is coincidence needs to come talk to me about this bridge I have for sale.

It is what it is, and we need to just enjoy it for what it is. Call it the Todd Blackledge/Lamar Hunt rule.
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