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The great olive oil fraud - Why your extra virgin olive oil may not be virgin..

The great olive oil fraud - Why your extra virgin olive oil may not be virgin at all

(NaturalNews) You thought you were making an informed health choice by using extra-virgin olive oil in place of cheaper, low-quality cooking oils, right? You probably never thought that a tiny, expensive bottle of EVOO might be cut with crap or doctored with chlorophyll to make it taste like olive oil -- when in fact it was soybean or another health-compromising, cheap oil. According to Tom Mueller, the fearless author of Extra Virginity: The Sublime and Scandalous World of Olive Oil, 70 percent of the extra virgin olive oil sold worldwide is watered down with other oils and enhancers making them far from virgins and more like sidewalk hookers on the corner of 10th and Main -- not exactly good for your health or your pocketbook.

Mueller exposes the billion dollar industry, showing how EVOO is compromised world-wide. During volunteer testing by suppliers to authenticate what they thought were pure extra virgin olive oils, every brand submitted in Australia during 2012 failed the tests and none gained certification for being pure. Authentication tests at UC Davis in 2011 uncovered similar results.

How to recognize genuine extra virgin olive oil
It's difficult to tell by taste if the brand of olive oil you buy is truly extra virgin. Even the experts get stumped during taste tests. There are two ways that give a hint whether you have the real thing or a fake. Neither is absolutely fool proof; however, they will rule out the hardcore fakes.

Extra virgin olive oil solidifies when it's cold. When the bottle is placed in the refrigerator, it should become cloudy and thicken or even solidify. As it warms on the counter, it becomes liquid again. Any oil that doesn't thicken in the fridge is not pure EVOO -- simple as that.

Additionally, the real McCoy is flammable and should be able to keep a wick from an oil lamp burning. If your oil doesn't, it is not pure EVOO.

Buying genuine extra virgin olive oil
The best place to buy the real thing is from local producers whom you know. Of course, not everyone lives in Italy or near an olive orchard. The next best way to find genuine, extra virgin olive oil from companies or online is to look for those whose products have been tested and certified as pure and organic. (http://www.foodrenegade.com/real-food-resources/#fats) Pure EVOO is not cheap, but then neither is fake EVOO; so you may not notice much of a difference in price, just in taste and health effects.

Alternatives to using olive oil
As delicious and healthful as extra virgin olive oil is, some people do not like the taste; and of course, it's not meant for cooking at high temperatures. There are other delicious and healthy unrefined fats and oils available that make great alternates for health-conscious individuals.

Coconut Oil -- The best virgin or expeller pressed coconut oil is made without the use of high heat during processing. It's a highly nutritious food packing a wide range of health benefits. Virgin coconut oil can be heated for cooking or consumed straight out of the jar on a spoon.

Red Palm Oil -- Red palm oil is made from the palm fruit rather than the palm kernel, and in its unrefined state, it is high in vitamin E, tocopherols, tocotrienols and beta-carotene. It has no trans-fats and is stable when heated during cooking. It contains oleic acid, the main fatty acid found in olive oil and is monounsaturated.

Other healthful oils and fats
· Sesame Seed Oil
· Nut oils
· Avocado oil
· Flax seed oil
· Fermented cod liver oil
· Ghee

Sources for this article include:

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/apr...e-oil-20110414

more sources at the link...

http://www.naturalnews.com/036509_ex...ud_bottle.html
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Old 10-29-2013, 03:36 PM   #46
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Well, you definitely have a good balance of slow and fast swimmers!
Well, for the sake of clarity, the two older ones are stepchildren but I don't think of them as such. My swimmers are ridiculous. I had to get a vasectomy after the last kid. You know that whole "this form of birth control is 99% effective" thing? Yeah...it's true.
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Old 10-29-2013, 03:36 PM   #47
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AS I said , I know a guy who worked for a big Pharm at the HQ in NYC. He has alot to say about how rigged drug trials are . The guy is totally into natural remedies as much as possible now.
They are rigged. There's been whistle blowers about their methods and their marketing as in what they hide from the public that they know is bad for them.
All one has to do is look at the legal websites listing the lawsuits on many of their drug products. Totally criminal. Seems like Fish defends those kinds of results.
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Old 10-29-2013, 03:37 PM   #48
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Well, for the sake of clarity, the two older ones are stepchildren but I don't think of them as such. My swimmers are ridiculous. I had to get a vasectomy after the last kid. You know that whole "this form of birth control is 99% effective" thing? Yeah...it's true.
Oh LOL! You still had one boy and one girl right? That there is balance too. Not unless you created two of the same gender.
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Oh LOL! You still had one boy and one girl right? That there is balance too. Not unless you created two of the same gender.
Yeah. I have an 18 year old girl and a 16 year old boy living with me right now.
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Old 10-29-2013, 04:15 PM   #50
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Yes it is competition. That's what the free-market school teaches--that certain competitors will use legislation or govt to create barriers to entry into markets. Or bad mouth the competition. Happens all the time--not just in healthcare. Every lawn person I hire bad mouths the other company to get their foot in the door.

The medical profession legislated its way into dominant, practically monopoly status, when homeopathics were more popular back in the 19th century. In somewhat recent history they were even found guilty in a court of law trying to drive the chiropractic profession out of business by labelling them "quacks." Chiropractic plays a valid role in healthcare...even eliminating some expensive back surgeries. They knew this was happening.

Furthermore, it's also what lead to the medical profession being so highly paid. Once upon a time, they didn't make much. This happens from creating barriers to entry.

Even some pharmaceutical firms have lobbied to get vitamin/mineral supplements banned or patented. They haven't won that yet but they have been buying up natural food stores and reducing the potency of some vitamins.

If ALL these things are so full of quackery they wouldn't need to resort to such tactics. People would find out anyway. However, there's a reason for this, alternative therapies and healthcare is growing...and they're afraid of it. Think of how few pharmaceuticals folks would need if they remained healthy for longer.

I don't expect you to agree because you prefer to live in the Truman Show of mainstream mania. So I'll not waste anymore time trying to defend my position. You're free to disagree but I won't be reading it.
There's a pretty important reason why supplement/vitamin manufacturers are required by law to stamp a big warning on the side of the bottle saying "This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease.” I know you always like to gloss over that fact. But it's there for a reason. If it could actually treat some ailment, it would be considered as legitimate medication. But 99% of the garbage does nothing but waste people's money.

Homeopathic were more popular in the 19th century, because there was infinitely less regulation on what they could claim they cured. It's the source of the term "Snake oil". They're less popular now, because homeopathy has been exposed as bullshit. And I'm not saying this as some shill for modern medicine. I haven't seen a doctor in over 8 years, and haven't taken so much as an antibiotic or other prescription medication in almost 10 years. Modern medicine certainly has its own problems. But to say that homeopathy and NaturalNews is competition for actual science-based medicine is just laughable.
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A few years ago, I saw a Consumer Report that said that Goya is legit. So I've been buying it for years. It's always been known as that cheap brand that does it the right way. More recently, Consumer Reports said it failed the test. I'll still go with the track record. Goya is a reasonably priced legit olive oil.
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A few years ago, I saw a Consumer Report that said that Goya is legit. So I've been buying it for years. It's always been known as that cheap brand that does it the right way. More recently, Consumer Reports said it failed the test. I'll still go with the track record. Goya is a reasonably priced legit olive oil.
I'm not sure this was going on a few years ago. Anyway, to my way of thinking,if it's cheap, it can't be high quality. You get what you pay for. Now I not saying everything more expensive is better by default but good, at least imported olive oil ain't cheap. I also read it was the Mafia that was behind the cheapening of olive oil.
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Old 10-29-2013, 05:02 PM   #54
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I'm not sure this was going on a few years ago. Anyway, to my way of thinking,if it's cheap, it can't be high quality. You get what you pay for. Now I not saying everything more expensive is better by default but good, at least imported olive oil ain't cheap. I also read it was the Mafia that was behind the cheapening of olive oil.
In this case, for some reason, it was widely believed that Goya was doing legit cold press olive oil versus machine press. You're usually right, but in this case, for some reason seems like Goya made a good product for cheap. I don't know if that's really changed. It's actually a really good olive oil for the price.
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Well, I've got some olive oil in a shot glass in the freezer - I'll know soon.
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Well, I've got some olive oil in a shot glass in the freezer - I'll know soon.
I've been had. Kirkland olive oil, is, well, I don't know what it is, I just know what it isn't. ****ING OLIVE OIL.

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Okay, perhaps I just didn't leave it in the freezer long enough. After a few hours, it froze solid.
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