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Old 10-31-2013, 04:48 PM  
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Where would you go to the Hospital if covered by exchange?

Another ObamaCare disaster is happening hidden by the website blow up. No, not the retirement rate of doctors and HC specialists. Not the yet to be seen impact on people who got a waiver….thats yet to come.

Remember when we had people saying what a super duper deal this would be for the hospitals? Well….maybe in the twisted mind of lib think.

If you think all hospitals will accept you and your awesome new health care coverage….slow down there buddy. Cash and Individual policy and employer policy folks will likely get to get care, you ill have to find some other hospital…..

Bummer for you. Shop around.

http://health.usnews.com/health-news...t-of-obamacare
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Old 10-31-2013, 05:10 PM   #2
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Once you find a hospital that will accept it, you then have to make sure whatever you need is even considered necessary. Some reports are making it sound like numerous tests (if even deemed necessary) could take months before you can have them administered. Not the dr's call, but the insurance's call. I have a feeling there will be a bunch of little fun sidenotes constantly popping up with the new super awesome - and affordable - coverage.
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Old 10-31-2013, 05:24 PM   #3
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Old 10-31-2013, 07:03 PM   #4
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Why do you write these incomprehensible editorial thread titles? It just serves as cover for the liberals to ignore the real issue and it makes it impossible to know what the thread is actually about
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Old 10-31-2013, 07:14 PM   #5
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Why do you write these incomprehensible editorial thread titles? It just serves as cover for the liberals to ignore the real issue and it makes it impossible to know what the thread is actually about
He's clever and stuff.
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Old 10-31-2013, 08:08 PM   #6
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Why do you write these incomprehensible editorial thread titles? It just serves as cover for the liberals to ignore the real issue and it makes it impossible to know what the thread is actually about

Try reading the thread title and information when sober. The issue is hospitals are not going to play in the governments game. Is that hard to understand?
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Old 10-31-2013, 08:23 PM   #7
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Regulations driven by the Obama White House have indeed made insurance more affordable – if, like Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, you're looking only at price. But responding to Obamacare caps on premiums, many insurers will, in turn, simply offer top-tier doctors and hospitals far less cash for services rendered.
Well, this is obviously true.

Insurance companies will respond to cost pressure by only offering $x for procedures instead of what they actually cost.

In turn, hospitals will say "Well, then we aren't accepting that insurance company anymore because we can't afford to." (Ever called a doctor's office and heard "we are not accepting any new medicare patients at this time"?)

So eventually, the liberals will see that their plan is untenable and will make a law that says hospitals can't do that. They'll no longer be allowed to refuse an obama-approved insurance plan just because it threatens to bankrupt them if they do. Which means hospitals will have to drastically cut costs on their end to keep the lights on, which is when quality will degrade and wait times will skyrocket.

That's where we are headed.
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Old 10-31-2013, 08:25 PM   #8
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Try reading the thread title and information when sober. The issue is hospitals are not going to play in the governments game. Is that hard to understand?
Why don't you just post the article and the headline without writing your own half-true summary all the time, and let people discuss the facts of the matter and not just how misleading the current tread title may or may not be...?
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Old 10-31-2013, 08:40 PM   #9
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If you think all hospitals will accept you and your awesome new health care coverage….slow down there buddy. Cash and Individual policy and employer policy folks will likely get to get care, you ill have to find some other hospital…..

Bummer for you. Shop around.

http://health.usnews.com/health-news...t-of-obamacare
So some hospitals are not in the network for particular insurance plans? Isn't that the way it is now?
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Old 10-31-2013, 09:02 PM   #10
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Why don't you just post the article and the headline without writing your own half-true summary all the time, and let people discuss the facts of the matter and not just how misleading the current tread title may or may not be...?

OK…here

http://health.usnews.com/health-news...t-of-obamacare
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Old 10-31-2013, 09:10 PM   #11
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So some hospitals are not in the network for particular insurance plans? Isn't that the way it is now?
Many people are going to have to buy new plans because the government won't declare their old coverage to be in compliance, whether they want to get different coverage or not. Obamacare massively increases this "out of network" problem, it does not reduce it. It doesn't even increase it just for people who have to sign up - the chain reactions cause it to affect the majority of people who already had coverage and were perfectly fine. That means many of them are going to have to work through new hospitals and new doctors even though they never wanted to sign up for Obamacare and were told this would not occur.
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