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Old 11-01-2013, 12:23 AM  
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Gerald McCoy says Bucs coaches got upset he helped opponents up off ground

Gerald McCoy says Bucs coaches got upset he helped opponents up off ground
Posted by Curtis Crabtree on November 1, 2013, 2:00 AM EDT
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The Tampa Bay Buccaneers continue to strive to show how tough they are and how hard they play in all the wrong ways.

In addition to the continued insistence to play defense aggressively when within one score while a team in the victory formation, the Buccaneers coaching staff also apparently doesn’t like acts of sportsmanship toward opposing teams.

Buccaneers defensive tackle Gerald McCoy said during a radio appearance Wednesday on the team’s flagship station, 620 WDAE-AM, that the team’s defensive line coaches (Randy Melvin and Bryan Cox) expressed anger toward McCoy for helping opposing players off the ground in games.

Despite their anger, McCoy isn’t listening on this subject.

“I had my D-line coaches get on to me the other day,” McCoy said, via JoeBucsFan.com. “Well, not get on to me, try to get on to me. There’s no way they’re going to get on to me for this. They got upset with me because I helped somebody up [in the game.] So what! I don’t care. Kiss my butt. Listen, if I want to help somebody, I’m going help somebody up. Because right on the next play I’m going to knock him down again. It doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter.”

“That doesn’t change how hard I play. As long as in between the whistles I’m not helping anybody up, it doesn’t matter. So what if I help them off the ground? ‘Good job; we’re out here competing. But as soon as they snap the ball, I’m going to kill you again.’

“There’s nothing wrong with that. Everybody’s not like that. If you don’t want to be like that, keep it to yourself. I don’t care. I don’t go tell them, ‘Hey, you’re not doing this. You’re not doing that.’ I don’t care. Everybody does what they do. If I help somebody up, get over it. Get over it.”

McCoy believes the vitriol being shown toward head coach Greg Schiano for the team’s 0-7 start to the season is a bit overboard. However, the backlash from the coaches about helping opponents up could be another instance of the coaching staff not seeing the forest through the trees.
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Old 11-01-2013, 08:55 AM   #46
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When on the field of battle for those 60 minutes. You should not help your opponent. Make that person expend their own energy to get that 300 lbs off the ground. That is not disrespectful at all. In the 4th quarter is when these big guys get worn down. If you help that big fatty up burning your energy and not his all game long. In the end it could come back to haunt you or your team.
Outside of those 60 minutes, not between whistles, is a different story. But during the game it is battle and every inch of turf, every ounce of energy is very important.
"Battle"? Really
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:07 AM   #47
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**** YES BATTLE
That is a term that has been used to describe football games for decades by players, coaches, owners, and the media.
Go watch some NFL Films or something.
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:09 AM   #48
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When these guys are fighting for an inch of turf, in the trenches, do you think they are playing?
When the WRs and CBs are trying to get position and get the ball before the other or knock it down do you think they are playing?

**** NO they are BATTLING.
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Old 11-01-2013, 11:58 AM   #49
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If they were smart, they'd fire Schiano now and hire Lovie so they wouldn't have any competition.
Holy shit. That's ****ing Brilliant.

Lovie even has experience with the Tampa 2.

Perfect ****ing idea.
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Old 11-01-2013, 12:14 PM   #50
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Old 11-01-2013, 12:23 PM   #51
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**** YES BATTLE
That is a term that has been used to describe football games for decades by players, coaches, owners, and the media.
Go watch some NFL Films or something.
You haven't played much, if any, organized ball.. have you?
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Old 11-01-2013, 12:39 PM   #53
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So the best you have is a subjective opinion about 'disrespect'?

You HAVE to help other players up or you're a 'douche'?

The **** world do you live in? This isn't pee wee football. These guys are professionals.
Worthy ****ing adversary. If you respect your opponent then there's nothing wrong with showing them some. Punk ass bitches take issue with helping up an opponent. If you value true competition you want them at their full strength and you want to dominate them, you want to push them into the ****ing dirt, then help them up, only to push them right back into the dirt the next play.
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Bryan Cox was always such a ****ing class guy...
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When these guys are fighting for an inch of turf, in the trenches, do you think they are playing?
When the WRs and CBs are trying to get position and get the ball before the other or knock it down do you think they are playing?

**** NO they are BATTLING.
Dude you seriously need to find some new hobbies.
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what a stupid thing for the coaches to be upset about
it is, but i wouldn't want him McCoy helping the other team up either


make them expend the energy to get up themselves

take every edge you can get


Help your own guys up if you need to do something
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Old 11-01-2013, 01:57 PM   #57
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If they were smart, they'd fire Schiano now and hire Lovie so they wouldn't have any competition.
Why would Lovie sign now rather than wait and see if a better job (roster, $$) opens up?
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Why would Lovie sign now rather than wait and see if a better job (roster, $$) opens up?
Because he's got a rich history with Tampa and they have some very nice pieces on their roster.
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Little things like this are just a symptom of the bigger problems down there.

No way Schiano is an NFL head coach next year.
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Old 11-01-2013, 03:43 PM   #60
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Dysfunctional organization.
KC fans know MUCH on this subject.
Tampa's org needs an enema.
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