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Old 11-01-2013, 11:42 PM  
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Rand Paul likes to lift speech material straight from Wikipedia

Sort of surprised i dont see this up anywhere.



Rand Paul denies plagiarism charges, blames ‘haters’ ’

By Aaron Blake, Published: OCTOBER 31, 10:59 AM ET

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) says in a new interview that charges that he has plagiarized Wikipedia in his speeches are an effort by "haters" to bring him down.

MSNBC's Rachel Maddow first accused Paul of lifting passages from Wikipedia's summary of the movie "Gattaca." Other reports suggest he has used Wikipedia's verbiage while describing the movie "Stand and Deliver."

Paul said during an interview with Fusion that he sufficiently credited the movies rather than Wikipedia and that his speeches are not supposed to be meticulously footnoted academic papers.

"We borrowed the plot lines from 'Gattaca,' the movie, and I gave credit to the people who wrote the movie," the potential 2016 presidential candidate said. "Nothing I said was not given attribution to where it came from.

"I didn't claim that I created the movie 'Gattaca'; that's what's absurd about this."

While Paul made no secret he was talking about the movie, the plagiarism charge has more to do with whether he appropriated Wikipedia's description of the film without citing the Web site.

Many politicians have been accused of plagiarism. Vice President Biden's 1988 presidential campaign was derailed amid multiple charges of plagiarism. President Obama was also accused of plagiarizing Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick (D) during the 2008 presidential campaign.

Paul also targeted Maddow and others who have pushed the story.

"The rest of it's making a mountain out of a molehill from people I think basically who are political enemies and have an ax to grind," Paul said. "This is really about information and attacks coming from haters. The person who's leading this attack -- she's been spreading hate on me for about three years now."

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Old 11-02-2013, 04:54 PM   #31
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Did you accuse someone here of plagiarizing something you said a few years back? I can't remember the details.
It was me. He thought he had sole ownership of a meme, and accused me of plagiarizing him when I repurposed the meme to support my own point of view.
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Old 11-02-2013, 04:57 PM   #32
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It didn't stop Joe Biden. Anyway originality is vastly overrated.
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Old 11-02-2013, 05:10 PM   #33
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You don't like her fine. But it is a story, and attacking her doesn't negate it.

I don't think it should be a fatal blow to him in his aspirations either.

But it does make me wonder why this group of fringe republicans is always so allergic to admitting any mistakes. It seems to run through the entire group of them. I guess because their position is "we have a monopoly on the truth, and no one else understands things as well as us", maybe they can't afford to even have the appearance that there is any fault they are capable of? It really makes no sense, but I've run into it again and again on this forum as well.

Are you sure?!?!?

Something this incredibly serious?!?!?!

My God, man, you need to rethink that!
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Old 11-02-2013, 05:17 PM   #34
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Old 11-02-2013, 05:51 PM   #35
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The most amazing thing about the Gattaca quote is he even puts air quotes around "In the not too distant future". He's like Ron Burgundy.
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Old 11-02-2013, 11:34 PM   #36
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You don't like her fine. But it is a story, and attacking her doesn't negate it.
THIS!

Who gives a flying **** if Maddow plagerizes? She's a TV host of an opinion show on a partisan network.

Paul is a Senator who is going to run for President. Completely different level of responsibility to get things right when he is speaking publicly.

So if Maddow or Hannity plagerizes then its okay for a Senator or President to do?
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Old 11-02-2013, 11:45 PM   #37
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Old 11-02-2013, 11:51 PM   #38
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It was me. He thought he had sole ownership of a meme, and accused me of plagiarizing him when I repurposed the meme to support my own point of view.
It wasn't a meme, it was a direct quote. The irony is not lost on me, however.

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Old 11-03-2013, 12:47 AM   #39
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It really irks Maddow when conservatives reference pop culture. Her staff of intellectual hipsters don't like it when their favorite shows get referenced by evil people who want to steal bread from babies.
I think your diagnosis is way off the mark. I think Maddow is amused that Ayn Paul was caught reading wikipedia text verbatim off of Obama's teleprompter.

I don't think Gattaca has much of a following. What was the other story that he read the wikipedia text about? Stand and Deliver?

I don't think Ayn Paul is the Stand and Deliver type. He talks through his nose like a snob, he seems to be much more of a Bend Over and Receive type.

I think Rachel Maddow would be very welcoming to him because of that, she loves her some LGBT. If Ayn Paul could just laugh off the fact that he verbatimed wikipedia in speeches and stop acting like a snobbish pussy who talks through his nose and takes estrogen supplements.
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Old 11-03-2013, 01:40 AM   #40
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It wasn't a meme, it was a direct quote. The irony is not lost on me, however.

For posterity's sake:



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Whatever. No skin off my back. Call it what you want. I took the meme and repurposed it for my own. I sure as hell wasn't going to cite your dumb ass for an idea that had been popping up here and there. I did get satisfaction, however, in how butt hurt you got over it.
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Old 11-03-2013, 04:50 AM   #41
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Maddow looks really small in this one if one actually pays attention.

But in terms of the original definition of propaganda [propagation of felicitous sentiment] I just bet it's resonating like hell with low information voters.

'Oh, that Rachel, with her furrowed brow, and snark in every syllable, is really taking to that white guy again, something about his he doesn't understand the internet. It's a hoot. Rich white guys, suck it some more.'

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You make it sound as it was a bad thing. Doesn't she get paid to do it? She gets decent ratings and get paid well. Everybody is happy.
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Old 11-03-2013, 07:49 AM   #42
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Are you sure?!?!?

Something this incredibly serious?!?!?!

My God, man, you need to rethink that!
History does suggest it can be serious:

Joe Biden 1988 Presidential Campaign
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Old 11-03-2013, 09:15 AM   #43
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History does suggest it can be serious:

Joe Biden 1988 Presidential Campaign
That was much different.
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Old 11-03-2013, 09:55 AM   #44
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I think your diagnosis is way off the mark. I think Maddow is amused that Ayn Paul was caught reading wikipedia text verbatim off of Obama's teleprompter.

I don't think Gattaca has much of a following. What was the other story that he read the wikipedia text about? Stand and Deliver?

I don't think Ayn Paul is the Stand and Deliver type. He talks through his nose like a snob, he seems to be much more of a Bend Over and Receive type.

I think Rachel Maddow would be very welcoming to him because of that, she loves her some LGBT. If Ayn Paul could just laugh off the fact that he verbatimed wikipedia in speeches and stop acting like a snobbish pussy who talks through his nose and takes estrogen supplements.
Remember folks, the Democratic party is the party that says that it respects LGBT community and doesn't use such identifying terms as a slur.
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Old 11-03-2013, 04:36 PM   #45
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History does suggest it can be serious:

Joe Biden 1988 Presidential Campaign
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That was much different.
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