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Old 11-02-2013, 04:49 PM  
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Is Obama the most disingenuous POTUS ever ?

In light of the many issues at hand,the way they are handled,along with his Chicago style politics, is he the the most disingenuous POTUS ever?
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Old 11-07-2013, 08:30 PM   #76
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I think what Aries is overlooking is that there have always been people who know more about the mystery than the masses. Newton wasn'y nearly as well rounded as the folks who built the Great Pyramid . The bottom line as far as what Aries is seeing and not seeing is that the Shadow Government really started to take its form as industry and science began to take off. The last thing the Satanic Illuminati Masons and Zionist Jews want the masses to realize is that the old heirarchy of Angels and Demons still function albeit Satan/Draconis has been cast down along with a third of the heavens . We dont need space ships to travel to the stars a good fast up on a mountain can wonders for a souls navigating skills. I always get a kick out of the notion that aboriginals and simple folks are backwards compared to what the mentats of the day are.

Let me put this as plain and simple as I possibly can. People , in the absence of an Industrial UrbanScientifcic mindset for a preschool education have keener senses than those who are taught in modern terms of what reality is without a Creator other than Man as God. For someone to belittle those whose shoulders we stand upon for being unenlightened is for someone to show themselves as an utter fool. What is taught as history is for the most part a sterile sham. Simple folks see creation as a gift form the Creator as they should see it . Everything else is commentary.
Okay, my conscience is clear. I won't make the mistake of trying to talk sense to you any more; obviously, we won't be on the same page. I just hope that when we're both in the same discussion about some unrelated topic, it doesn't get so bogged down in Satanic Illuminati Masons and Zionist Jews talk that we can't just converse as human beings. That's all.

Otherwise, shine on, you crazy diamond.
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Old 11-07-2013, 08:43 PM   #77
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Dude you gotta get over King Bush .... Barry is crack smoking homosexual Antichrist. He is the one who will be center stage when it all comes down and he will be the one everyone will watch perish first . I say that realizing there are many who look forward to that thing they call his wife getting hers moreso . Toss her to the thugs and let them dispose of her along with the rest of the trash in DC. Let the dogs loose . DC aint nothing but one big party for the Hellbound. ASk Pastor Mannning he will tell you . If anyoen thinks what I am saying is shocking and harsh , just wait till you see what really happens. There are going to be folks so weak in the knees they wont be able to stand . There will be folks soiling their pants
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Old 11-07-2013, 08:43 PM   #78
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Old 11-07-2013, 08:46 PM   #79
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It's hard to tell what specific "facts" you want checked since you're just throwing out sentence fragments instead of completely formed ideas, but yes, they were all at least partially true. And apparently, you did miss it.
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no weapons where found in Iraq

the yellow cake uranium was a fabrication

and AL Qaeda wasn't in Iraq before we got there

this is why I stay out of the cesspool
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Old 11-07-2013, 08:48 PM   #80
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You know, the Chiefs red color represents the devil
that would be the color green.
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Old 11-07-2013, 08:54 PM   #81
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Old 11-07-2013, 09:06 PM   #82
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no weapons where found in Iraq

the yellow cake uranium was a fabrication

and AL Qaeda wasn't in Iraq before we got there

this is why I stay out of the cesspool
got drunk and stoopit tonight
If Bush haters held Obama to the same level of 'disingenuous' as they did Bush Obama never would have had a second term.
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Old 11-07-2013, 09:49 PM   #83
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no weapons where found in Iraq
Incorrect. Some of Saddam's GW1 era stockpiles for which he failed to account were found in Iraq. His failure to account for his stockpiles was a big part of why the UN passed it's last resolution against Iraq in the immediate prelude to the war.

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the yellow cake uranium was a fabrication
Nope. In terms of whether a lie was told or not, the yellow cake controversy was over the words GWBush used in his State of the Union. Those were true. Britain's Butler report investigating the matter found that the words were "well founded".

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and AL Qaeda wasn't in Iraq before we got there
Well, as a matter of fact, al Qaeda was in Iraq before we got there just as they were in many other countries throughout the region and Europe, but that's not why we invaded. We invaded because, among other reasons, Saddam had a history of working collaboratively with terrorists (including, as it turned out, the Egyptian Islamic Jihad which merged with bin Laden's organization to form the version of al Qaeda that attacked us on 9/11).

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Sorry to hear that. I hope you don't have a bad hangover.
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Old 11-07-2013, 10:19 PM   #84
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It's one thing to have voices in your head, when you starting posting messages to them, you may want to consider some help.
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Old 11-07-2013, 11:25 PM   #85
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Okay, I'm getting it now. I'm understanding more of where you're coming from. I'm going to try very hard to not make fun of your beliefs, because (contrary to what Han Solo taught us all) belittling someone's beliefs is a very uncool thing to do. That said, I will probably fail (and have probably already failed) at some point, so I truly apologize for that.

You're obviously enthusiastic about your theological studies, to the point where I genuinely want to know where you got your education. I (of all people) will never say that someone shouldn't study history, but I will say that there is a danger in knowing only part of the grand story - especially if you then build your life's beliefs upon that incomplete knowledge. To borrow a simile, it's like building your house on sand, and it's not uncommon. It's human nature, but with study comes perspective.

I'm being a little nebulous here, so I'll try to clarify. People of the (Mideastern/European) Iron Age were not that developed. Even the most learned of them didn't know where rain came from, for example, nor did they have any concept that there was such a thing as the number zero. They had practically no methods to transmit ideas over distances or time; the Kemetic education curriculum - which no Greek philosopher ever finished - lasted forty years, and we learn more than they did by high school. The amount that the most educated of their time didn't know was staggering, so much so that people these days often assume they must have known the basics that we all take for granted, when they really didn't.

My point is that you have to take ancient writings in context. They were not written by scholars by any modern standard. Since those times, we have had thousands of years of advancements in philosophy, sociology, theology, cosmology, medicine, and physics. We've been through the Renaissance, the Enlightenment, and countless schools of modern thought. Our life span has doubled, we have understanding of the smallest quarks and the largest galaxies, we can split the atom and fly to space, we understand brain patterns and chemicals and circulation and robotics and even cybernetics, and endless other science-fictiony fields. Even our height has grown by about six inches. We know a truly colossal amount more about absolutely everything than the Iron Age people did.

Including linguistics. And symbology. And psychology. And woodworking. I admire your faith and willingness to defend it a lion's den, but I implore you to view ancient texts the way they are - wise, to be sure, but metaphorical. The didn't have the knowledge they would need to speak in facts or observations, or even to have their brains process what they just saw much of the time, so metaphor was the only way they could tell that magnificent, multi-generational, multi-authored tale and keep to the theme.

Mainstream knowledge is mainstream for a reason. It is the culmination of more than 2,000 years of us using the brains God gave us to hone and refine the secrets of how the world works. We have a lot still to learn, but we have already learned a lot, which you can't dismiss. To put your faith instead in the writings of people who didn't really know what the sun was is to embrace willful ignorance, as much as if you were to preach the Gospel of Zeus.
How dare you speak blasphemy against the great Zeus! You will burn in...burn in...hold on. Let me check something. Be right back.
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Old 11-08-2013, 10:47 AM   #87
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Old 11-08-2013, 11:39 AM   #88
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Probably because we've figured out since then that it's superstitious nonsense, like the rest of your post.
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no weapons where found in Iraq

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this is why I stay out of the cesspool
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Yeah, that stoopid thing...it seems to be creeping into daytime too.
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