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Old 11-08-2013, 12:15 AM  
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Dad Calls Cops on Son to Teach Him a Lesson, Cops Shoot Son Dead

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A father's attempt to teach his son a lesson for taking his truck without permission ended in tragedy Monday after a local police officer shot the teenager dead.

James Comstock told the Des Moines Register he called the police on his son Tyler after the latter took the former's truck in retaliation for refusing to buy him cigarettes.

Ames Police Officer Adam McPherson reportedly spotted the lawn care company vehicle and pursued it onto the Iowa State University campus, where a brief standoff ensued after Tyler allegedly refused orders to turn off the engine.

McPherson eventually fired six shots into the truck, two of which struck Tyler who was later pronounced dead.

The official report claims the action was necessary in order "to stop the ongoing threat to the public and the officers."

Tyler's dad says he was unarmed at the time.

"So he didn't shut the damn truck off, so let's fire six rounds at him?" exclaimed Gary Shepley, Tyler's step-grandfather. "We're confused, and we don't understand."

James said his son had his fair share of minor troubles with the law, and was distraught over a recent breakup with his girlfriend, but was in the process of turning his life around, and was working on obtaining his GED at Des Moines Area Community College.

"He was a smart kid. He made his own computers. He was interested in IT," James told the Register.

The family's demands for answers got even louder following the revelation that a member of the Ames police department suggested twice that officers call off the chase.

"He took off with my truck. I call the police, and they kill him," James said. ""It was over a damn pack of cigarettes."

McPherson is currently on paid leave pending the results of his department's investigation.
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Old 11-08-2013, 12:12 PM   #76
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anyone killed by a cop deserved it/CP
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Old 11-08-2013, 12:15 PM   #77
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The police knew it was only a stolen car. There was no violent crime or murder trying to get away. When the son started speeding up through that intersection and pedistrian traffic everywhere the cops should have backed off. Catch him after the innocent public is out of danger.

Too many of these car chases result in some innocent deaths.
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Old 11-08-2013, 12:22 PM   #78
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The police knew it was only a stolen car. There was no violent crime or murder trying to get away. When the son started speeding up through that intersection and pedistrian traffic everywhere the cops should have backed off. Catch him after the innocent public is out of danger.

Too many of these car chases result in some innocent deaths.
They knew it was ONLY a stolen car? No, with the way this guy was acting, I don't see it far fetched to find out the guy was high on PCP, about to embark on a rampage or some other highly dangerous shit.

What is innocent?

Certainly he was guilty of attempted murder by the time they ended up shooting him.

Did you watch the dash cam vid? The chase is VERY short. This dude no doubt would have ran one of those guys down had he had a chance. By the time the radio is telling him to back off he is already being smashed into multiple times by the truck, and has it slowed to a crawl.


Again, I pretty much do not like cops. But in this case, dude had it comin.
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Old 11-08-2013, 12:24 PM   #79
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They knew it was ONLY a stolen car? No, with the way this guy was acting, I don't see it far fetched to find out the guy was high on PCP, about to embark on a rampage or some other highly dangerous shit.

What is innocent?

Certainly he was guilty of attempted murder by the time they ended up shooting him.

Did you watch the dash cam vid? The chase is VERY short. This dude no doubt would have ran one of those guys down had he had a chance. By the time the radio is telling him to back off he is already being smashed into multiple times by the truck, and has it slowed to a crawl.


Again, I pretty much do not like cops. But in this case, dude had it comin.
Lotta speculation in your post.
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Old 11-08-2013, 12:25 PM   #80
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Right, they are pissed off he rammed them, endangered their lives or maybe hurt them. Basic human emotion.

The bad decision was to start the pursuit when it endangered innocent civilians over a stolen car that they knew was not a wanted violent criminal.
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Old 11-08-2013, 12:27 PM   #81
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Lotta speculation in your post.
Have you watched the dash cam vid?

I was replying to the post where he said they KNEW it was ONLY a stolen car. (speculation~)

The only speculation I did was that they didn't KNOW it was ONLY a stolen car. And that the guy would have run a cop down. Again, if you watch the dash cam, I think its an educated guess.
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Old 11-08-2013, 12:30 PM   #82
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Right, they are pissed off he rammed them, endangered their lives or maybe hurt them. Basic human emotion.

The bad decision was to start the pursuit when it endangered innocent civilians over a stolen car that they knew was not a wanted violent criminal.
I'd like to read the 911 transcript.
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Old 11-08-2013, 12:36 PM   #83
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Right, they are pissed off he rammed them, endangered their lives or maybe hurt them. Basic human emotion.

The bad decision was to start the pursuit when it endangered innocent civilians over a stolen car that they knew was not a wanted violent criminal.
Really? How about the bad decision was the kid stealing the truck. Or maybe when the father got the cops involved.
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Old 11-08-2013, 12:41 PM   #84
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You ram a cop in his car, multiple times, you are going to eat some lead. **** that stupid douche. One less moron walking the Earth and taking up Oxygen.
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Old 11-08-2013, 12:41 PM   #85
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Have you watched the dash cam vid?

I was replying to the post where he said they KNEW it was ONLY a stolen car. (speculation~)

The only speculation I did was that they didn't KNOW it was ONLY a stolen car. And that the guy would have run a cop down. Again, if you watch the dash cam, I think its an educated guess.
Maybe he's just a kid that needs a hug.
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Good to know that when a cop is aware of a stolen car......all he needs to do is not pursue.....you'll get him later.
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Old 11-08-2013, 12:42 PM   #87
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Really? How about the bad decision was the kid stealing the truck. Or maybe when the father got the cops involved.
I was talking about what the cops could have done differently, to not endanger innocent civilians.

The fault lies with the dumbass kid and his decisions, not the cops.

But, I'd rather not die because some kid goes on a joy ride and the cops chasing him blindsides me in an intersection.
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Good to know that when a cop is aware of a stolen car......all he needs to do is not pursue.....you'll get him later.
Just pull over whenever you're done with the car and meet us down at the police station.
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Why would something happen to the cop...?
I don't need to give an explanation as to why.

This is just flat out wrong. Cop kills the kid, this is murder. He will get away with it because he is an authority figure and can pull that type of shit. This is what bothers me. Its wrong he didn't have to take the kids life over such a minor issue.

The kid was stupid for refusing to not obey the officer, but did he really have to kill him? Why not just wrestle him down to the ground and arrest him?

*Something should happen to the cop because he committed murder. Protect and serve I understand but their should be conditions to that sort of stuff. It should only happen if that person is armed and the cop felt threatened and then I could understand the cop killing the kid out of the sake of self defense.
But this situation didn't exactly resemble that. Not to its full extent anyway.
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